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re: Pilot in deadly Iowa, LA helicopter crash had student license

Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:44 pm to
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
177296 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:44 pm to
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Second Louisiana father to kill his family (this year) because he bit off more than he could chew in an aircraft. I feel bad for the wife and daughter and her family.

Always being right is such a curse.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
63405 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:52 pm to
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The Prelim also states there is no record of him having a medical certificate as well.


You can't fly solo until you have one of these. I'm curious to know the name of his flight instructor or if he actually had one.
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
An Incredibly Distant Star
Member since Dec 2013
18452 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:59 pm to
Dipshit basically murdered his wife and infant.
Posted by 6R12
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2005
11961 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:59 pm to
Krotz Springs......surprised the cops didn't write a ticket and put it on the cockpit remains for descending too fast. You know they can write tickets in their sleep.
Posted by Tigeralum2008
Yankees Fan
Member since Apr 2012
17711 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 10:01 pm to
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If you look at the flight path in the article the flight path the last minute you could tell he was lost. It did 2 360s before coming down on the road. His poor wife and kid. Just so so aggravating.


Could be he was lost. Could also be a slow spiral descent into the ground from spatial disorientation

In my night training flights I certainly felt I was flying higher than indicated altitude. Disorientation sets in QUICK
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
49636 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 10:08 pm to
[quote]he had three children from his previous marriage[/quotei

I only saw he had one daughter from a previous relationship.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
63405 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 10:09 pm to
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I didn't read the full report which is linked in my OP


Only the prelim. No conclusions noted.
Posted by SWLA92
SWLA
Member since Feb 2015
5047 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 10:11 pm to
I have never been in a helicopter. If you get lost while flying at night, and you lose your awareness of altitude there’s no instruments telling you your altitude?
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
63405 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 10:16 pm to
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Dude had no business flying his family in a storm at night for what would have been a 30-minute car ride. Very sad.


There was no storm. Visual Meteorological Conditions with scattered clouds at 4700 feet and 10 mile visibility.

quote:

Second Louisiana father to kill his family (this year) because he bit off more than he could chew in an aircraft. I feel bad for the wife and daughter and her family.


That guy most likely flew his plane into an embedded thunderstorm. That never ends well.
This post was edited on 11/19/24 at 10:18 pm
Posted by Traveler
I'm not late-I'm early for tomorrow
Member since Sep 2003
26399 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 10:17 pm to
The R44 has all the instruments for VFR ops. Altimeter, Airspeed, Vertical Speed, Turn Rate and an Attitude Directional Indicator.

This post was edited on 11/20/24 at 6:17 am
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
63405 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 10:27 pm to
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If you get lost while flying at night, and you lose your awareness of altitude there’s no instruments telling you your altitude?


Yes, but that all goes out the window if you have spatial disorientation.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75115 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 10:54 pm to
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In my night training flights I certainly felt I was flying higher than indicated altitude. Disorientation sets in QUICK

The report states that he flew a good bit higher on the return flight than he did going. Going it said he had an altitude of 800 something feet, while returning he had something like 1,300 and actually ascended during part of the circle flight pattern before the helicopter started losing altitude.

I have no idea what any of that may mean in relation to the crash, but it just seemed notable.
Posted by Mr Breeze
The Lunatic Fringe
Member since Dec 2010
6805 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 11:11 pm to
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You can't fly solo until you have one of these. I'm curious to know the name of his flight instructor or if he actually had one.

He had a CFI or wouldn't have known how to start the engine and take off. Even if he could start it, with zero experience he'd likely flip or shear a main or tail rotor off with a ground strike.

NTSB's final report will certainly include an interview with his CFI, and will also determine why he did not have a medical certificate. Huge red flag.

His wife's mother lost her only child and grandchild, something she will mourn for the rest of her life. Tragic, I don't know how you handle that.

This arse thought he was Chuck Yeager, turns out he was anything but, a sad and infuriating circumstance all too common in low hour VFR rated GA pilots. FAFO and your not pulling over to park while you figure out what to do next.

I simply hate reading about these types of accidents, even more so when the root cause is blind egocentric stupidity. It's just so mind boggling idiotic it's hard to fathom a decent explanation.

May God somehow comfort Nana and all their family.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
26476 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 11:17 pm to
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quote:
About 1/2 of those at Ft. Rucker who passed their fixed wing training washed out of helicopter flight programs.

Enterprise, AL......the town where a Blackhawk helicopter can pop out of any random bush on the side of the road.


Yeah, went to HS in Enterprise. My father was the accident investigator and director of safety at Ft. Rucker. He got to grab and fly a Huey anytime he wanted and got paid extra for doing so. Loved flying those things.

I worked on the flight line one college summer back in the day.
Posted by shmashmortion
Member since Feb 2011
502 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 11:19 pm to
Darwin at work.
Rest easy to his wife and daughter.
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
21177 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 11:33 pm to
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What an idiot.

He was not really a Savant after all.
Posted by BilbeauTBaggins
probably stuck in traffic
Member since May 2021
7669 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 11:34 pm to
My heart is breaking for the daughter. My little one is about to turn 2, and we have our second on the way. The WORST I've put mine through is maybe in a tactical baby carrier while riding an electric scooter at low speeds. I cannot imagine putting them through any type of danger like this.

Guy owned a used car dealership, so clearly he was some special type of egotistical POS. Can't believe he dragged his family down with his stupid actions.
Posted by Hondo Blacksheep
Member since Jul 2022
3132 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 11:35 pm to
Girlfriend of mine just lost her mom the same way, bf was a dentist or something like that and had his own rig. Apparently face planted in East Texas in a storm on the way to LC. Terrible way to go out.
Posted by SWLA92
SWLA
Member since Feb 2015
5047 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 11:38 pm to
Damn, how long ago?
Posted by Hondo Blacksheep
Member since Jul 2022
3132 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 3:32 am to
Last year. Really a tragic loss, especially since she had three daughters.
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