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re: Personal injury fraud ring is hitting the news.

Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:26 pm to
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:26 pm to
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If they fought back against the frivolous injury claims and win those cases


by judges.

judges are politicians voted by the people.

they tend to rule against the ins companies all day long.
Posted by KemoSabe65
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Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:26 pm to
Serious? Morris told them "one call that's all" suit is filed before the adjuster can contact claimant most days.
I's a gonna gits mines mentality.
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
15942 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:27 pm to
quote:

If its a legit injury I dont have a problem with them paying the claim


You would be shocked how often insurance companies flat out deny legit accidents and legit injuries or severely low ball the injured person.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
84381 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:29 pm to
And all of these are frivolous? Or are you just jaded from doing it your whole career? Some combination of both?
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
119609 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:29 pm to
quote:

Tend to rule against ins. companies


Tough shite
Posted by Verbal Kent
Member since Aug 2013
114 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:30 pm to
For the record, I am a plaintiff lawyer. I was an insurance defense lawyer. I made the change when a guy got killed and it was clearly our client's fault. He had a 20 year old wife and a one year old son. I was given an unlimited budget to research and file pleadings seeking a technicality to get the case booted. I made the decision then to represent people against unscrupulous insurance companies. You need to understand that alot of people are hurt and don't want to make a claim, but they are getting strung out without a rental car and about to lose their jobs because the insurance company is trying to save 30 bucks a day for three extra days. $90.00 times 10,000 claims is $900,000.00 more profit.

I have had cases where a person's foot was cut off in the accident and there was only 15k in insurance. I waived my fee. Recently had a case where three older ladies got smoked by an 18 wheeler. I thought it was going to be a very big case. They ended up being fine and did not seek extensive treatment. I got them a fair, but nominal settlement.

Tort reform advocates are all bluster until it involves them or their family. Once, I stood in front of a jury in a case where a man had been seriously injured and lost his job, wife left him, lost his house. I asked the jury if I could prove my case would they be able to award appropriate damages. One lady said no she could not award damages. I asked her if it was her husband, would it be different? She said yes, because it would be her and her husband who were hurt. I struck her from the jury.

Good people get hurt and deserve compensation. If insurance companies were fair, then most people would not need plaintiff lawyers. But insurance companies are not fair. They are profit first businesses. Do not feel sorry for them.

Plaintiff lawyers are why we have seatbelts, child proof medicine, guards on power equipment. We hold businesses accountable and you should be thankful that we exist.

Are there people out there running scams? Sure, but I try like hell not to represent them and if I smell a whiff of impropriety, I withdraw.

That's my rant.



Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
84381 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:31 pm to
There are too many Gordon McKernans and not enough of these ^
This post was edited on 10/31/18 at 2:32 pm
Posted by Demshoes
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Member since Aug 2015
10673 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:32 pm to
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You would be shocked how often insurance companies flat out deny legit accidents and legit injuries or severely low ball the injured person.


Looking at you USAA UM. You pay for the damn coverage then get ridiculously low balled on your first party claim for protection against people who are un or under insured.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:32 pm to
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I try like hell not to represent them and if I smell a whiff of impropriety, I withdraw.


Good for you
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
23311 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:35 pm to
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How would you curb that?


Pretty easy actually. You make the minimum medical injury requirement a lot higher just like the rest of the world. There's a certain liability for everyone to drive. Its ridiculous to be honest to sue someone over $5,000-10,000.

We all pay insane amounts of liability insurance. Instead of paying out so many small claims, we simply remove them from even being a possibility. Basically you make deductibles go way up along with personal responsibility.

That's how our medical care should be also. Everyone pays out of pocket to an initial spot. If I don't need $5,000 of medical care every year than you save that much.
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
15942 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:36 pm to
I am assuming the King Firm will say they simply relied on what their clients told them and no idea that the accident was staged basically, head in the sand. I guess they had to feed that ad budget.

They had a pretty decent practice why would they risk something like this.
Posted by KemoSabe65
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Member since Mar 2018
6278 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:36 pm to
What's your annual ad budget? Mix of radio/billboard/tv?
TR is coming, will you be ready??

LINK
This post was edited on 10/31/18 at 2:40 pm
Posted by Demshoes
Up in here
Member since Aug 2015
10673 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:36 pm to
quote:

Verbal Kent


Could not have said it better. Post of the thread.
Posted by SabinBear
Member since Jan 2018
1145 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:37 pm to
These people and their attorneys should go to jail. Fraud is vile.
This post was edited on 10/31/18 at 2:45 pm
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43031 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:37 pm to
What they get out of it is being able to jack up premiums for normal people. They pay up a little, say it costs so much to pay for accidents, and jack up premiums. They win. They do it on purpose
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
175856 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:40 pm to
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For the record, I am a plaintiff lawyer. I was an insurance defense lawyer. I made the change when a guy got killed and it was clearly our client's fault. He had a 20 year old wife and a one year old son. I was given an unlimited budget to research and file pleadings seeking a technicality to get the case booted. I made the decision then to represent people against unscrupulous insurance companies. You need to understand that alot of people are hurt and don't want to make a claim, but they are getting strung out without a rental car and about to lose their jobs because the insurance company is trying to save 30 bucks a day for three extra days. $90.00 times 10,000 claims is $900,000.00 more profit.

I have had cases where a person's foot was cut off in the accident and there was only 15k in insurance. I waived my fee. Recently had a case where three older ladies got smoked by an 18 wheeler. I thought it was going to be a very big case. They ended up being fine and did not seek extensive treatment. I got them a fair, but nominal settlement.

Tort reform advocates are all bluster until it involves them or their family. Once, I stood in front of a jury in a case where a man had been seriously injured and lost his job, wife left him, lost his house. I asked the jury if I could prove my case would they be able to award appropriate damages. One lady said no she could not award damages. I asked her if it was her husband, would it be different? She said yes, because it would be her and her husband who were hurt. I struck her from the jury.

Good people get hurt and deserve compensation. If insurance companies were fair, then most people would not need plaintiff lawyers. But insurance companies are not fair. They are profit first businesses. Do not feel sorry for them.

Plaintiff lawyers are why we have seatbelts, child proof medicine, guards on power equipment. We hold businesses accountable and you should be thankful that we exist.

Are there people out there running scams? Sure, but I try like hell not to represent them and if I smell a whiff of impropriety, I withdraw.

That's my rant.


stopped reading.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
119609 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:43 pm to
Above your pay grade ?
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:44 pm to
Verbal Kent vs Chad504boy???

I think I'd go with Verbal Kent in the integrity department
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
100247 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:46 pm to
Get Gordon Get it done
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
138138 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:46 pm to
quote:

For the record, I am a plaintiff lawyer. I was an insurance defense lawyer. I made the change when a guy got killed and it was clearly our client's fault. He had a 20 year old wife and a one year old son. I was given an unlimited budget to research and file pleadings seeking a technicality to get the case booted. I made the decision then to represent people against unscrupulous insurance companies. You need to understand that alot of people are hurt and don't want to make a claim, but they are getting strung out without a rental car and about to lose their jobs because the insurance company is trying to save 30 bucks a day for three extra days. $90.00 times 10,000 claims is $900,000.00 more profit.

I have had cases where a person's foot was cut off in the accident and there was only 15k in insurance. I waived my fee. Recently had a case where three older ladies got smoked by an 18 wheeler. I thought it was going to be a very big case. They ended up being fine and did not seek extensive treatment. I got them a fair, but nominal settlement.

Tort reform advocates are all bluster until it involves them or their family. Once, I stood in front of a jury in a case where a man had been seriously injured and lost his job, wife left him, lost his house. I asked the jury if I could prove my case would they be able to award appropriate damages. One lady said no she could not award damages. I asked her if it was her husband, would it be different? She said yes, because it would be her and her husband who were hurt. I struck her from the jury.

Good people get hurt and deserve compensation. If insurance companies were fair, then most people would not need plaintiff lawyers. But insurance companies are not fair. They are profit first businesses. Do not feel sorry for them.

Plaintiff lawyers are why we have seatbelts, child proof medicine, guards on power equipment. We hold businesses accountable and you should be thankful that we exist.

Are there people out there running scams? Sure, but I try like hell not to represent them and if I smell a whiff of impropriety, I withdraw.

That's my rant.

I read this all in the voice of Jim Adler, The Texas Hammer
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