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re: People with the title of “Dr.” who aren’t doctors
Posted on 1/26/24 at 3:00 pm to phunkatron
Posted on 1/26/24 at 3:00 pm to phunkatron
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Decent chunk of emergencies, I'd probably prefer an experienced EMT on the spot over an MD. ER physicians are an exception.
I agree. And in an office setting, much of the time, I'd rather have a PA who actually listens to me and discusses my health than a MD who reads my chart and barely hears anything I say and can only manage to say 2 sentences back to me. The one that listens is usually the one who gets it right.
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Posted on 1/26/24 at 3:04 pm to mdomingue
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The title is not exclusive to medical doctors and predates modern medicine. Anyone who has earned a recognized doctoral degree earns the right to the title of doctor.
This is true. But honestly, I'm probably not calling any of them Dr., including MDs. Why do they get a title? They're not better than me. I'm calling almost everyone by their first name. If they're not calling me a title...neither am I.
Posted on 1/26/24 at 3:14 pm to Dudley Humptyfrats
That's Franckensteen!
Posted on 1/26/24 at 3:34 pm to killercoconut
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But why is it treated any different than a PhD? The work to obtain it is the same
It's viewed different only by those that know the workload, demand level, and self discipline required is not the same. A PhD requires "original" research. A subject or topic that has not been researched, or otherwise MUST expand and advance current theory. The failure rate / dropout percentage is the highest of any degree.
The PhD (D.Phil in many other countries) is the highest, most respected degree in any field worldwide. Anyone who says otherwise simply isn't completely informed.
First professional degrees (through challenging) are almost always taught as a cohort of pre-designed courses many of which change very little from one year to the next. The student continues to function in a scheduled, structured environment.
Complete satisfactory work (as designed) on schedule and the student will complete the degree at a pre-determined future date.
The PhD requires extraordinary independence even when completingsome of the early coursework. Most of the courses require independent research, which is the easy part. The dissertation (USA), called a thesis in most other countries will be more involved and demanding than all of the coursework completed before COMBINED!
The development of the Pharm.D and DPT did more to diminish the value of the doctorate degree than any other degree experience, IMO.
Now a PhD in physical therapy would be remarkably impressive.
Posted on 1/26/24 at 3:39 pm to VolunGator
My brother has a Phd, and is actually a Dean of a college at a major university.
I don't call him Dr though. I do ask him who is on double secret probation however...
I don't call him Dr though. I do ask him who is on double secret probation however...
Posted on 1/26/24 at 3:48 pm to TulaneFan
Posted on 2/7/24 at 3:02 pm to VolunGator
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It's viewed different only by those that know the workload, demand level, and self discipline required is not the same. A PhD requires "original" research. A subject or topic that has not been researched, or otherwise MUST expand and advance current theory. The failure rate / dropout percentage is the highest of any degree. The PhD (D.Phil in many other countries) is the highest, most respected degree in any field worldwide. Anyone who says otherwise simply isn't completely informed. First professional degrees (through challenging) are almost always taught as a cohort of pre-designed courses many of which change very little from one year to the next. The student continues to function in a scheduled, structured environment. Complete satisfactory work (as designed) on schedule and the student will complete the degree at a pre-determined future date. The PhD requires extraordinary independence even when completingsome of the early coursework. Most of the courses require independent research, which is the easy part. The dissertation (USA), called a thesis in most other countries will be more involved and demanding than all of the coursework completed before COMBINED! The development of the Pharm.D and DPT did more to diminish the value of the doctorate degree than any other degree experience, IMO. Now a PhD in physical therapy would be remarkably impressive.
This is exactly the perspective I’m talking about and take exception to this. It’s condescending and largely inaccurate. I’m not sure where you get this “original” research comment from as if I copied someone else’s work or used a template of some kind. I published research on a novel topic in my field that had not previously been studied and impacts the ideology and approach a therapist would use in a clinical setting should they read it. The whole notion that the PhD is somehow earned because of an outlandishly more rigorous process and DPT’s are essentially handed a guide on how to complete their assignments and degree is ridiculous. But then again I’m sure you are just an unbiased observer correct?
Posted on 2/7/24 at 11:09 pm to OlGrandad
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Medical doctor friend told me he was going to put RD after his MD on his office door.
He wanted people know he was a real doctor.
I can remember going to PTA meetings and there would frequently be some dipshit who would have "Hi My Name Is: Dr. Something or Theother" on their name tag.
I had just found the dentist or the chiropractor.
I have several friends who are dentists who commonly introduce themselves as "Dr.". When in a group, someone inevitably would ask if I'm a dentist too. "Nope, I'm a real doctor." Most would laugh. Most.
Look,most earned doctorates from real universities require a lot of work and a fair amount of cerebral horsepower. No knocks on any of them. But the theory that PhDs are the top of the intellectual heap is a laugh. I had several PhDs in my med school class who flat out struggled with the pace and amount of information, much less residency with the brutal hours, diagnostic reasoning and art of reaching a fast clinical decision without a full data set in the real world. Likewise, I've seen excellent physicians do some extraordinarily stupid shite in their business and personal lives. Intelligence in a a profession or vocation doesn't always translate into common sense or flawless critical thinking.
Posted on 2/8/24 at 12:53 am to StringedInstruments
I had a guy with a "PhD" working for me. I had to rewrite everything he ever submitted. I take some very seriously and others, not so much.
Posted on 2/8/24 at 1:48 am to lsushawn
I'm technically a Doctor, but I don't use the title.
I feel like went down this road a while ago. I'll call my MD Doctor, I don't think I've ever called anyone else Doctor
This post was edited on 2/8/24 at 2:07 am
Posted on 2/8/24 at 2:09 am to OweO
Keep mocking God. Let me know how that works out for you.
Posted on 2/8/24 at 2:49 am to tgrbaitn08
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Why don’t lawyers call themselves Doctors?
Because a trained monkey could do our jobs, just because we charge an astronomical hourly rate doesn't make us worthy of a pre/postnominal.
Posted on 2/8/24 at 3:09 am to TulaneFan
My dad was a geophysics PhD. I never heard anyone, including himself, refer to him as Dr.
Posted on 2/8/24 at 3:40 am to TulaneFan
I identify as a Dr, would you like your appendix removed now?
Posted on 2/8/24 at 4:55 am to CocomoLSU
You got me you bastard……upvote
Posted on 2/8/24 at 5:43 am to Obtuse1
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Because a trained monkey could do our jobs, just because we charge an astronomical hourly rate doesn't make us worthy of a pre/postnominal.
I’m glad someone said it.
Posted on 2/8/24 at 6:19 am to VolunGator
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The PhD (D.Phil in many other countries) is the highest, most respected degree in any field worldwide. Anyone who says otherwise simply isn't completely informed.
PhD is subjective, with no standardized test to pass. Again, a PhD can be obtained on line.
To graduate medical school, you are required to pass the United States Medical Licensing Examination (USMLE) step 1 and 2. At that point, you are a MD. To practice medicine in the US, you must then pass step 3.
If you fail any of the steps 4 times you are out, no graduating from med school, no practicing medicine. You are not eligible to retake again.
Posted on 2/8/24 at 6:24 am to Powerman
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Guess words were too challenging so you threw in a bunch of pictures to fill the pages
Graphs are very informative, and quickly and easily conveys info. Graphs are not a bad thing.
This post was edited on 2/8/24 at 5:47 pm
Posted on 2/8/24 at 8:38 am to i am dan
MD
Doctor
DO
Doctor
DDS, DMD
Doctor
PhD
Doctor
Chiropractor, Podiatrist, Physical Therapist, Doctorate of Nursing or whatever
Not a doctor
Doctor
DO
Doctor
DDS, DMD
Doctor
PhD
Doctor
Chiropractor, Podiatrist, Physical Therapist, Doctorate of Nursing or whatever
Not a doctor
Posted on 2/8/24 at 9:20 am to TulaneFan
Insecurity
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