re: People with the title of “Dr.” who aren’t doctors

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The times evolve and continents change. You are "doctor" while on campus. Otherwise you're "mister." Your physician is "doctor" anywhere. Nobody is looking for an entomologist or a philosopher when calling for a doctor in public.

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Amen, but that baw only calls for a physician

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I do find it absolutely maddening when nurses who have their doctorate and still practice nursing insist on being addressed as Dr. I think it's highly misleading to patients.

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Intentionally so. The NP lobby is constantly trying to blur the lines between themselves and physicians, and sadly they succeed in fooling millions of patients each year.

85% of DNP programs are non clinical, meaning they learn admin, nursing theory, etc but not anything that makes them better at practicing medicine. This imo makes it double scummy. Many of these programs are online, and their “dissertations” are hilarious, like 8th grade assignment level bad.

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85% of DNP programs are non clinical, meaning they learn admin, nursing theory, etc but not anything that makes them better at practicing medicine. This imo makes it double scummy. Many of these programs are online, and their “dissertations” are hilarious, like 8th grade assignment level bad.

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I agree with you 100%. A lot of the NPs - not all mind you, but a lot of the NPs I know, I knew them when they graduated nursing school and let's just say that the list of NP's I trust with my healthcare is a short one.

Another thing I think should be mandated is to have at least 5 years of clinical experience before enrolling in NP school.

But I tend to be in the minority in terms of how I view the world.

I apologize that they call me MD over on the food board. I didn’t start it. It just happened. I am somewhat embarrassed that I didn’t try to stop them.

Does it upset you that most engineers do not drive a train?

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most PhDs don't insist on being called Dr in social settings

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Particularly real PhDs chemistry, physics, engineering, Comp sci etc.
Almost never give a shite about being called Dr.
Meanwhile bullshite education PhDs or business etc. Straight crap that are play PhDs insist on being called Dr.

Decent chunk of emergencies, I'd probably prefer an experienced EMT on the spot over an MD. ER physicians are an exception.

My wife calls me maestro.

And I just pick the playlist on Spotify

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I have a PhD…


Pretty huge dick.

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You misspelled "Post Hole Digger".

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Also, as others have stated PhD precluded Medical Doctors.

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PHD stopped medical Doctors?

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Despite what the AANP says, most patients prefer physician led care. People generally want the most educated person in the room taking care of them. Too bad over half of states allow independent NP care. I could rant for hours about the situation and how bad it is for patients. Since becoming an attending I have been very careful with the NPs I am forced by my employer to supervise.

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totally agree. If I have a clinic visit for myself, I always want to see my actual MD and when I schedule my appts, I make sure that it is with my MD and not the NP that
i'll be seeing. If I am paying a premium or copay to see the doctor, I want to actually see a physician.

My experience has been in the ER for 21 years and ICU for 3.5 now. I've worked alongside many RN's who became NP's. Those who returned to the ER to practice as a NP, were trained in the ER as an RN and have worked closely with the MDs there. Those NP's, as well as the PA's in the ER are some of the best I've seen. But those who went to work in the clinics after NP school- I think their critical thinking skills were off to begin with.

Same goes for the NP's who assist the Intensivists in the ICU where I work now. They work even more closely with tthe intensivists and their training as a NP in the ICU is along the lines of an apprenticeship. They're not cut loose from the MD for quite some time and even then their scope is limited in terms of what they are expected to do.