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re: People who live to work
Posted on 1/14/25 at 8:08 am to Chef Curry
Posted on 1/14/25 at 8:08 am to Chef Curry
Owned my own business for 20 years. I averaged a 60 hour work week.
When I was 41 I closed up shop and went to work in the upper management of a company and couldn't be happier. The 40 hour work week seemed like part-time when I began.
I'm high enough up the ladder to have freedom to take time off whenever I need and while I have headaches they're nothing like when I worked for myself. Closing that business was the best decision.
. The kids are getting older and my one regret is that I wasn't around much when they were young. I enjoy having more time with my family now. If I could flip-flop it and work here for the first 20 years and open the business at 40 that would be ideal.
When I was 41 I closed up shop and went to work in the upper management of a company and couldn't be happier. The 40 hour work week seemed like part-time when I began.
I'm high enough up the ladder to have freedom to take time off whenever I need and while I have headaches they're nothing like when I worked for myself. Closing that business was the best decision.
. The kids are getting older and my one regret is that I wasn't around much when they were young. I enjoy having more time with my family now. If I could flip-flop it and work here for the first 20 years and open the business at 40 that would be ideal.
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Posted on 1/14/25 at 8:10 am to wackatimesthree
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children still to this day do not reach out to share or communicate with me like they do my wife, and it's because she was around when they were little and I was not most of the time.
Lots of guilt to this day. My hope is they one day recognize why the decisions made were made and they are not in a shrink’s office, or Hooters, with daddy issues.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 8:12 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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And people struggling to make life better for the next generation is what drives mankind to greatness.
Really?
Most people seem to bitch and moan endlessly when the following generation has it "easier" than them.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 8:13 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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And people struggling to make life better for the next generation is what drives mankind to greatness.
I’d love a new truck but what benefit is there? Keeping up with the Jones? Jesus I sound old ????
Posted on 1/14/25 at 8:14 am to KyleOrtonsMustache
I love how people talk about getting out of the corporate machine and opening a business to live a better life. Its a massive tradeoff. Almost nobody opens their first business and is successful by any means other than massive self sacrifice. The payoff may come in the long run, but getting it off the ground will not happen by any means other than sheer will power and massive time invested. The hardest working people I know are people who weren't born wealthy and are in the first few years of owning their own business. I don't think they sleep at all.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 8:15 am to BigApple
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Just remember, you will never get into the $500k a year range without making it your life.
That's definitely not universally true.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 8:16 am to JohnnyKilroy
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Most people seem to bitch and moan endlessly when the following generation has it "easier" than them.
Yeah I always roll my eyes at the sh*t. I doubt that any of the baws who landed at Normandy would want their descendents to have things as rough as they did.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 8:16 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
I'm a small business owner so YMMV. But I've gone from making 100k to 300k to 500k to 1m a year. My quality of life has probably gone down from for every 100k I make over 300k a year if I'm being honest.
And that's with me being self employed and making my own hours. I will never understand why people slave away their entire lives for large corporations and let those jobs consume them. Money just isn't worth it once you reach a certain threshold.
And that's with me being self employed and making my own hours. I will never understand why people slave away their entire lives for large corporations and let those jobs consume them. Money just isn't worth it once you reach a certain threshold.
This post was edited on 1/14/25 at 8:17 am
Posted on 1/14/25 at 8:16 am to JohnnyKilroy
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it "easier" than the
Define easier? Is wanting your kids sto not worry about their next meal? Spending night in a car? Moving every 6-months because you were evicted because your parents made horrible decisions?
Posted on 1/14/25 at 8:19 am to Kolbysfan
A man who isn't striving to make life for his kids better than it was for him isn't someone I'd want to associate with. I don't understand how that is even possible for someone to do.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 8:19 am to Chef Curry
As my wise father used to say, it’s good to appreciate the workaholics in a company but also good to be in a position to not let them drive you crazy.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 8:20 am to Chef Curry
So many doctors in their 70s keep working because they don't know how to do (or be) anything else. These people have more than enough to retire but just don't (or are still paying for three divorces).
In the process they are gatekeeping jobs from younger doctors and usually providing substandard care only propped up by the name they've built over decades.
In the process they are gatekeeping jobs from younger doctors and usually providing substandard care only propped up by the name they've built over decades.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 8:20 am to Rebel
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My father told me the worst thing you can ever be in life is average. My life experience has shown me that he was 100% correct.
Average, below average, superior... these words only mean something to people who value other people's opinions over their own.
I'm not saying it's ok to be mediocre. Both of my kids have straight A's and we put them in sports, and we want them to do their best and put forth effort. But, your success in life is determined by YOU. Not by your dad. Not by your coworker. Not by the internet. Not by friends. You decide what success looks like. If you believe success is climbing the corporate ladder at the sacrifice of your family, then that's your definition. If you decide that foregoing advances at work because it means less time with your family, and you value time with your family more, then that's your definition. Don't let others decide what success is for you.
Most people try to keep a balance between the 2. Some sacrifice family for work and at the end of their careers regret not spending enough time with family. I don't think i've ever heard anyone regret not spending enough time at work.
This post was edited on 1/14/25 at 8:22 am
Posted on 1/14/25 at 8:24 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
One of my goals was to be able for my wife to be a homemaker. It has to be one of the most beneficial acts of sacrifice, to ensure your kids are not raise by a stranger at a day care.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 8:26 am to JohnnyKilroy
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Most people seem to bitch and moan endlessly when the following generation has it "easier" than them.
I've never sen anyone complain about that.
I've seen plenty of people complain that, while the younger generation has it easier, they are more entitled and THINK they have the hardest row to hoe of any group of humans who ever lived.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 8:28 am to BugAC
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If you believe success is climbing the corporate ladder at the sacrifice of your family, then that's your definition.
Or if you feel that sacrificing the maximum amount you could be providing for your family so that you can spend your own time the way you'd selfishly like is your definition of success.
(See how that creative framing works both ways?)
Posted on 1/14/25 at 8:29 am to metallica81788
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These people have more than enough to retire but just don't (or are still paying for three divorces).
My business was employing doctors.
You'd be surprised at how many of them mismanaged their money so badly that they really can't retire in their 70s.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 8:35 am to metallica81788
This is true in my line of work also. The boomers and beyond watched their dads and grandfathers sacrifice EVERYTHING. My assumption is their work ethic / sacrifice was passed on to them.
Ediit:the lady I replaced WAS 74 YO but had nothing else as far as hobbies. Kids disliked her. Little relationship with grandkids.
Ediit:the lady I replaced WAS 74 YO but had nothing else as far as hobbies. Kids disliked her. Little relationship with grandkids.
This post was edited on 1/14/25 at 8:39 am
Posted on 1/14/25 at 8:37 am to rickyb223
I think the part of the reason they feel the need to brag is because they don't have a choice about working so much OT. They're stuck there and it makes them feel a little better about it. I work 6-7 days a week, 10-12 hrs a day, not because I want to but because I need to in order to live a comfortable life and have a couple toys. Eventually I'll be able to slow down a bit, I hope.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 8:37 am to Chef Curry
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I admittedly wanted to be one of these types in my early 20’s. However, currently at the age of 35, I’ve gotten to the point where I value time with my wife (no pics) and toddler children over chasing a buck for a shitty corporation.
All this right here.
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