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re: People are not spreading Covid after getting the vaccine

Posted on 3/29/21 at 11:55 am to
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 3/29/21 at 11:55 am to
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You can applaud the speed at which vaccine became available for people that wanted it, and still not want to get said vaccination at the same time.


Why would you applaud the speed if you don't trust the product?

Kinda hard to reconcile that.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
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Posted on 3/29/21 at 11:56 am to
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Want to believe this, but it seems way too soon to be able to come up with these results.


How so? They have roughly a year’s worth of data (trials started around this time last year). How much time do you need?
Posted by skullhawk
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 3/29/21 at 11:56 am to
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It usually takes years of testing to approve a new vaccine. This one was developed and deployed within a year. Now as to the dummies that elect to take this untested vaccine, well that is your call. (and thanks for being the Guinea pigs, someone had too.)


Every doctor I know has taken it so if there is some impending doom down the road associated with the vaccine then we’re all screwed anyway because there will be no one left to treat us.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 3/29/21 at 11:56 am to
You’ll still need that mask
Posted by Kraut Dawg
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Posted on 3/29/21 at 11:57 am to
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This post was edited on 3/30/21 at 1:11 pm
Posted by DirtyDawg
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Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 3/29/21 at 11:58 am to
Got my first one recently and I'm already not looking forward to the 2nd shot.

I had Covid in October, and it felt like the shot brought back the extreme exhaustion I felt in the month or so after I was sick. Whether that was legit, or just my brain fricking with me, idk.

Thankfully my 2nd shot is on a Friday, so I just can mope around for the weekend if I feel like shite.

Just thankful we are getting a ton of shots in arms.

Can't wait for a normal football season this Fall
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 3/29/21 at 11:59 am to
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Why would you applaud the speed if you don't trust the product?

Kinda hard to reconcile that.


Not fully trusting the product given your risk factor would be more accurate.
Posted by Colonel Angus
Member since Aug 2007
1627 posts
Posted on 3/29/21 at 12:00 pm to
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Except for the giant swath of people that don't trust it and won't take it


There was an interesting article in the WSJ about this a week or so ago. Basically besides the people who are adamant about not getting the shot to begin with, you have a large contingent who are on the fence about it and are deciding not to since everybody else is getting it and cases are going way down. Governors in a lot of states are very irritated because appts are going unfulfilled. That's why they are opening it up to everybody. The demand for the shot is dropping rapidly.
Posted by Cymry Teigr
Member since Sep 2012
2103 posts
Posted on 3/29/21 at 12:00 pm to
If you got a reaction after the first shot because you'd already had covid at some point, the second shot won't be anywhere near as bad. At least it wasn't for me.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 3/29/21 at 12:01 pm to
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Not fully trusting the product given your risk factor would be more accurate.


No, it was perfectly accurate as is. There is no point in cheering for red tape to cease to exist if you don't trust the product delivered. If you need the full however many years it would have taken before to feel comfortable with the product, the speed to develop the product is completely irrelevant to you.
Posted by omarlittle
Member since Mar 2011
1301 posts
Posted on 3/29/21 at 12:03 pm to
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Why would you applaud the speed if you don't trust the product?


Because millions of other people were clamoring for a vaccine. And the idea was that once a vaccine was available, then we could start opening up from the lockdowns. I was opposed to the lockdowns from the start. If having a vaccine did away with them, I'm all for it. Even if I have no plans of getting the vaccine.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 3/29/21 at 12:04 pm to
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Because millions of other people were clamoring for a vaccine. And the idea was that once a vaccine was available, then we could start opening up from the lockdowns. I was opposed to the lockdowns from the start. If having a vaccine did away with them, I'm all for it. Even if I have no plans of getting the vaccine.


Why would the vaccine change anything if many millions don't get it?
Posted by omarlittle
Member since Mar 2011
1301 posts
Posted on 3/29/21 at 12:12 pm to
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Why would the vaccine change anything if many millions don't get it?


We have a flu vaccine for decades that millions don't get, but we've never had lockdowns. What "should" happen, for people to feel comfortable getting on with our lives, is to have a vaccine available for people to decide to take if they think it's in their best interests. That seemed to be the solution presented by the government/medical community that would end the pandemic (we were never going to get it "under control". I was a proponent of herd immunity from the get go.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 3/29/21 at 12:14 pm to
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Except for the giant swath of people that don't trust it and won't take it
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84124 posts
Posted on 3/29/21 at 12:14 pm to
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We have a flu vaccine for decades that millions don't get, but we've never had lockdowns.


This virus isn't the flu no matter how many times people try to make that connection. I know that isn't the main point of your post, but it makes it hard to take you seriously when you imply the comparison.

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What "should" happen, for people to feel comfortable getting on with our lives, is to have a vaccine available for people to decide to take if they think it's in their best interests. That seemed to be the solution presented by the government/medical community that would end the pandemic (we were never going to get it "under control". I was a proponent of herd immunity from the get go.


I'd hope mots people's version of "should happen" is similar. Unfortunately, that isn't the reality we live in.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
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Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 3/29/21 at 12:16 pm to
I guess I still have to wear a mask though.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 3/29/21 at 12:18 pm to
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quote:
We have a flu vaccine for decades that millions don't get, but we've never had lockdowns.


This virus isn't the flu no matter how many times people try to make that connection. I know that isn't the main point of your post, but it makes it hard to take you seriously when you imply the comparison.


Which is transmitted easier? That would seem to be the main issue (if not the only one) in comparing the two vis a vis vaccination numbers and efficacy as to overall transmission on the population at large.
This post was edited on 3/29/21 at 12:19 pm
Posted by PentagonTiger
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 3/29/21 at 12:18 pm to
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the government types will 100% shift from Covid numbers to vaccination rates as their basis for restrictions.


This is definitely the next step. I think we'll get to about 50% of adults vaccinated pretty steadily and then it'll slow down some because of those who are either on the fence or just plain anti-vax.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
146214 posts
Posted on 3/29/21 at 12:19 pm to
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LNCHBOX



This is not directed at you so dont settle in for a 4 day argument with me...I just happened to respond to your post....


For the people that got the vaccine.... how has your life changed since getting the vaccine vs someone's life who hasnt gotten the vaccine?
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25365 posts
Posted on 3/29/21 at 12:20 pm to
I have the vaccine, my parents and in-laws have the vaccine. Hospitalization numbers have collapsed.

It's not worth living under these sanctions for me.
This post was edited on 3/29/21 at 12:22 pm
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