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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***

Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:14 pm to
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
28586 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:14 pm to
650 cases in Italy
17 deaths
56 in intensive care

So 11% of known cases in Italy have resulted in death or intensive care.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84856 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:15 pm to
quote:

As a side note, this flu/respiratory season has been very mild compared to previous years, at least where I am.


Good point with respect to capacity.

Compared to the 2017-2018 flu season, hospitalization rates are nearly half as high this year. Assuming that trend holds through the spring, that's something like 300,000 fewer hospitalizations over the season. That should/would leave room for this potential impact.
Posted by Mizzoufan26
Vacaville CA
Member since Sep 2012
17218 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:15 pm to
quote:



True. Still a little unnerving. Rarely wear a mask outside of my department but likely will tomorrow.



When I lived in Vacaville worked there at David Grant Medical Center on Travis. Texting a few friends asking about the response from their perspective with infection in their back yard. Asked about if the staff were wearing masks and was told no, that would likely scare patients if they did so.

Seems pretty idiotic in my lowly opinion
Posted by FieldEngineer
Member since Jan 2015
2123 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:16 pm to
https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

Is this link from the OP staying up to date?
This post was edited on 2/27/20 at 8:17 pm
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:16 pm to
Yea Italy doesn’t look good but the way their numbers blew up makes me think their surveillance and testing was subpar.

However, even if you double and triple the number of cases we would still be in a pretty bad position.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84856 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:18 pm to
quote:

650 cases in Italy
17 deaths
56 in intensive care

So 11% of known cases in Italy have resulted in death or intensive care.


And less than 2% of known cases in South Korea have resulted in death or serious/critical condition.

It's pretty clear that we have some denominator problems in a lot of this raw data.

ETA - This goes back to the inherent issues with extrapolating a fatality rate from one population or virus to another.
This post was edited on 2/27/20 at 8:22 pm
Posted by bbrownso
Member since Mar 2008
8985 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:19 pm to
Johns Hopkins site is good but can fall behind.

Worldometers is updated pretty quick.

Oh yeah, time for another Carl Goldman update:
LINK
quote:

I moved today. It’s a terrific sign I am recovering from the coronavirus, COVID-19.
. . . .
I arrived at the same complex where my wife, Jeri, is quarantined. My room is down the hall, but we might as well be in different zip codes. We continue to FaceTime multiple times a day.

quote:

I’ve had no fever for well over a week. Unlike a cold, I had no drippy nose, no sneezing. My cough remains, lingering as a friendly reminder I am not yet healed. I have never been in any pain. I was dehydrated when I arrived at the hospital after having a 103-plus fever during my flight to the states, thus the Gatorade cure.


quote:

As I turn in for bed, I continue to hear network commentary about Bernie Sanders’ remark. Bernie suggested, if a tyrant like Fidel Castro does something good, like providing literacy in a country with censored books, we should acknowledge it. I suspect Adolf Hitler brushed his teeth after most meals. I hope Bernie refrains from issuing any praise.

This post was edited on 2/27/20 at 8:25 pm
Posted by jennBN
Member since Jun 2010
3151 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:19 pm to
There is a mask shortage developing here. I hope I have access to them. People started hoarding them a few days ago.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51903 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:20 pm to

quote:

I know you're talking more generally about capacity, but just a note that I found interesting.


Personally I hope it was a lie for the sake of not seeming inflammatory/suppress the hysteria.

They are going to spent millions in Inter agency work seeking containment but then go “business as usual” if it fails?

It’s either not worth that initial effort, or it’s pure defeatism/malpractice if so.

Start arranging potential contingencies with military based triage centers, damn you. You won’t have time later if we need it.
Posted by Burhead
Member since Dec 2014
2099 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:21 pm to
The Navy is ordering all ships who visited any countries in the Pacific to self-quarantine for 14 days before traveling to another port.
Posted by Mizzoufan26
Vacaville CA
Member since Sep 2012
17218 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:21 pm to
quote:

There is a mask shortage developing here. I hope I have access to them. People started hoarding them a few days ago.



Shouldn’t have that issue on a military base. We have a significant stock maintained.

The numbers we have out here are in the 100k range, DGMC is significantly bigger
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84856 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:23 pm to
quote:

They are going to spent millions in Inter agency work seeking containment but then go “business as usual” if it fails?



I'm not sure where they'd draw the line, just an interesting thing he mentioned.
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
66433 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:23 pm to
I’m in ICUs at a lot of different hospitals, often in patient rooms. Besides contact precautions I never wear a mask ... looks like that’ll have to change ...
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84856 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:24 pm to
quote:

The Navy is ordering all ships who visited any countries in the Pacific to self-quarantine for 14 days before traveling to another port.




I'm sure they're ecstatic.
Posted by jennBN
Member since Jun 2010
3151 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:25 pm to
Impella?
Maquet?

What's your product?

Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
80773 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:25 pm to
quote:

There is a mask shortage developing here. I hope I have access to them. People started hoarding them a few days ago.

Masks have been sold out on Amazon and all stores where I live since mid February
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
19809 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:26 pm to
With a confirmed case in Nigeria, the below is from an older post.

quote:

Algeria, Ethiopia, South Africa, and Nigeria were part of the 13 top priority countries identified by WHO on the basis of their direct links and volume of travel to China.






Testing is just now coming on line in areas of Africa and the WHO has repeatedly said that they expect as spike in cases with increased testing capacity. It wouldn't be surprising to see a situation like Iran or Italy emerge as they start testing.
Posted by Malik Agar
Member since Nov 2012
12076 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:26 pm to
How much of an impact on the military is this or could the coronavirus be?
Posted by jennBN
Member since Jun 2010
3151 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:26 pm to
I mean other employees of the hospital.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51903 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:26 pm to
Taking the “scenic route” between ports.
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