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Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:28 pm to jennBN
So Wuhan has 11 million people and 2800 have died. That seems pretty low compared to the extreme media coverage this has received.
Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:29 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
*wide side step in a stage whisper**
My money is on 3M.
My money is on 3M.
Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:29 pm to Rhino5
Who else thinks this virus is a man-made biological weapon? I do. For it to be showing up “out of thin air” in some places is fishy.
Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:30 pm to Rhino5
But but but, muh blocked roads.
Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:30 pm to jennBN
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There is a mask shortage developing here. I hope I have access to them. People started hoarding them a few days ago.
I posted this morning that there are none to be found from suppliers to the construction industry.
With all this panicking there will be runs on other things as well.
Then The University of Alabama just made a WTF move with students in SK.
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The group’s travel was promptly adjusted so that the students could leave South Korea earlier than planned", according to a statement from the University of Alabama.
Related: Auburn, UAB and other Alabama colleges restrict international travel over coronavirus COVID-19 concerns
After the students left South Korea their trip continued in Cambodia.
As of Feb. 27, Cambodia is not subject to any CDC travel advisories related to COVID-19.
Unless they are sending them to Cambodia to immediately fly them back to the States. Otherwise I can't understand letting them continue on this trip to a country less prepared than SK.
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Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:30 pm to slackster
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It's pretty clear that we have some denominator problems in a lot of this raw data.
Definitely.
The problem is if you believe South Korea’s mortality rate more accurately reflects the true value then there would be 1,800 cases in Italy.
If you believe the mortality rate is really around that of the flu then there would be 32,500 cases already in Italy.
Food for thought
Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:30 pm to TigerTatorTots
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Masks have been sold out on Amazon and all stores where I live since mid February
Which is insane IMO.
If it gets to the point that I have to wear a mask in public, I won't be going in public.
Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:30 pm to slackster
quote:do they even tell the sailors? I have no idea how much access those guys have to current news.
I'm sure they're ecstatic.
Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:31 pm to Volvagia
Nah. Not 3M. But anyway....
It’ll be interesting to see how hospitals deal with the gown shortage by Cardinal and the hoarding/supply shortage of masks. There simply isn’t enough product to go around ... especially with limited backfill from China.
It’ll be interesting to see how hospitals deal with the gown shortage by Cardinal and the hoarding/supply shortage of masks. There simply isn’t enough product to go around ... especially with limited backfill from China.
Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:33 pm to slackster
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And less than 2% of known cases in South Korea have resulted in death or serious/critical condition.
You can also use these numbers to work backwords. Assuming 2% fatal/critical is correct, and knowing that there is 1 critical case in Northern Cal from community spread, you could infer that there are possibly around 50 total community acquired infections in that area; 1/50 = 2%. That would include cases in all stages of disease, which I assume is what the Korean numbers include.
Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:36 pm to Rhino5
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So Wuhan has 11 million people and 2800 have died. That seems pretty low compared to the extreme media coverage this has receive
Less than 1% of the population have been infected. 3.5% of those infected have died.
This post was edited on 2/27/20 at 8:40 pm
Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:36 pm to wdhalgren
quote:South Korea’s rate is currently <1%.
You can also use these numbers to work backwords. Assuming 2% fatal/critical is correct, and knowing that there is 1 critical case in Northern Cal from community spread, you could infer that there are possibly around 50 total community acquired infections in that area; 1/50 = 2%. That would include cases in all stages of disease, which I assume is what the Korean numbers include.
Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:37 pm to Scruffy
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Posted by Scruffy
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I am curious
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I suspect
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I am.
Look, I realize this is a pandemic thread and all but this is an egregious abuse of the “guideline” rule. Get your head back in the game, Scruffy!
Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:38 pm to Scruffy
LINK
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President Donald Trump’s administration is considering invoking special powers through a law called the Defense Production Act to rapidly expand domestic manufacturing of protective masks and clothing to combat the coronavirus in the United States, two U.S. officials told Reuters.
Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:39 pm to Scruffy
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South Korea’s rate is currently <1%.
I was using the number Slackster gave. But if 1% of all cases are critical/fatal, I guess that would imply 100 cases in the area. There's always a chance it's less, but that's based on an average of 1%.
Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:42 pm to Rhino5
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So Wuhan has 11 million people and 2800 have died. That seems pretty low compared to the extreme media coverage this has received.
It is.
However, as I said a few pages ago, this could be our only chance to stop this virus from becoming a regular seasonal occurrence. If you think of the total impact of "another" flu-like virus, the efforts to contain it are much more reasonable.
Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:44 pm to Scruffy
Also it’s very encouraging that South Korea only lists 5 critical
Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:47 pm to wdhalgren
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I was using the number Slackster gave. But if 1% of all cases are critical/fatal, I guess that would imply 100 cases in the area. There's always a chance it's less, but that's based on an average of 1%.
It's quite difficult to extrapolate the surrounding cases based on one patient in critical condition.
Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:48 pm to WaWaWeeWa
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Also it’s very encouraging that South Korea only lists 5 critical
It is.
We're getting to the point that I'm not so much worried/interested in the "rates" as I am the raw numbers. At the end of the day, they're all that matter anyway.
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