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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***

Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:28 pm to
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
69216 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:28 pm to
Big company but I’d rather not say.
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
30963 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:28 pm to
So Wuhan has 11 million people and 2800 have died. That seems pretty low compared to the extreme media coverage this has received.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
53483 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:29 pm to
*wide side step in a stage whisper**

My money is on 3M.
Posted by schwartzy
New Orleans
Member since May 2014
10029 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:29 pm to
Who else thinks this virus is a man-made biological weapon? I do. For it to be showing up “out of thin air” in some places is fishy.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
53483 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:30 pm to
But but but, muh blocked roads.
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:30 pm to
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There is a mask shortage developing here. I hope I have access to them. People started hoarding them a few days ago.


I posted this morning that there are none to be found from suppliers to the construction industry.

With all this panicking there will be runs on other things as well.

Then The University of Alabama just made a WTF move with students in SK.

quote:

The group’s travel was promptly adjusted so that the students could leave South Korea earlier than planned", according to a statement from the University of Alabama.

Related: Auburn, UAB and other Alabama colleges restrict international travel over coronavirus COVID-19 concerns

After the students left South Korea their trip continued in Cambodia.

As of Feb. 27, Cambodia is not subject to any CDC travel advisories related to COVID-19.


Unless they are sending them to Cambodia to immediately fly them back to the States. Otherwise I can't understand letting them continue on this trip to a country less prepared than SK.

LINK
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:30 pm to
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It's pretty clear that we have some denominator problems in a lot of this raw data.


Definitely.

The problem is if you believe South Korea’s mortality rate more accurately reflects the true value then there would be 1,800 cases in Italy.

If you believe the mortality rate is really around that of the flu then there would be 32,500 cases already in Italy.

Food for thought
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:30 pm to
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Masks have been sold out on Amazon and all stores where I live since mid February




Which is insane IMO.

If it gets to the point that I have to wear a mask in public, I won't be going in public.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:30 pm to
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I'm sure they're ecstatic.
do they even tell the sailors? I have no idea how much access those guys have to current news.
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
69216 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:31 pm to
Nah. Not 3M. But anyway....

It’ll be interesting to see how hospitals deal with the gown shortage by Cardinal and the hoarding/supply shortage of masks. There simply isn’t enough product to go around ... especially with limited backfill from China.
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
5331 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:33 pm to
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And less than 2% of known cases in South Korea have resulted in death or serious/critical condition.


You can also use these numbers to work backwords. Assuming 2% fatal/critical is correct, and knowing that there is 1 critical case in Northern Cal from community spread, you could infer that there are possibly around 50 total community acquired infections in that area; 1/50 = 2%. That would include cases in all stages of disease, which I assume is what the Korean numbers include.
Posted by Hogwall Jackson
Member since Feb 2013
5279 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:36 pm to
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So Wuhan has 11 million people and 2800 have died. That seems pretty low compared to the extreme media coverage this has receive


Less than 1% of the population have been infected. 3.5% of those infected have died.
This post was edited on 2/27/20 at 8:40 pm
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77273 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:36 pm to
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You can also use these numbers to work backwords. Assuming 2% fatal/critical is correct, and knowing that there is 1 critical case in Northern Cal from community spread, you could infer that there are possibly around 50 total community acquired infections in that area; 1/50 = 2%. That would include cases in all stages of disease, which I assume is what the Korean numbers include.
South Korea’s rate is currently <1%.
Posted by BobABooey
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2004
16135 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:37 pm to
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Posted by Scruffy


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I am curious

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I suspect

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I am.

Look, I realize this is a pandemic thread and all but this is an egregious abuse of the “guideline” rule. Get your head back in the game, Scruffy!
Posted by Burhead
Member since Dec 2014
2100 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:38 pm to
LINK

quote:

President Donald Trump’s administration is considering invoking special powers through a law called the Defense Production Act to rapidly expand domestic manufacturing of protective masks and clothing to combat the coronavirus in the United States, two U.S. officials told Reuters.
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
5331 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:39 pm to
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South Korea’s rate is currently <1%.


I was using the number Slackster gave. But if 1% of all cases are critical/fatal, I guess that would imply 100 cases in the area. There's always a chance it's less, but that's based on an average of 1%.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:42 pm to
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So Wuhan has 11 million people and 2800 have died. That seems pretty low compared to the extreme media coverage this has received.




It is.

However, as I said a few pages ago, this could be our only chance to stop this virus from becoming a regular seasonal occurrence. If you think of the total impact of "another" flu-like virus, the efforts to contain it are much more reasonable.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:44 pm to
Also it’s very encouraging that South Korea only lists 5 critical
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:47 pm to
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I was using the number Slackster gave. But if 1% of all cases are critical/fatal, I guess that would imply 100 cases in the area. There's always a chance it's less, but that's based on an average of 1%.


It's quite difficult to extrapolate the surrounding cases based on one patient in critical condition.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:48 pm to
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Also it’s very encouraging that South Korea only lists 5 critical




It is.

We're getting to the point that I'm not so much worried/interested in the "rates" as I am the raw numbers. At the end of the day, they're all that matter anyway.
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