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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***

Posted on 2/16/20 at 10:02 am to
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
19805 posts
Posted on 2/16/20 at 10:02 am to
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@BNODesk
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Hubei province announcement:
- Residential communities on lockdown
- Residents should not go out unless it's necessary
- Use of private vehicles is banned
- Non-essential public places closed
- Mass gatherings banned
- Supermarkets, pharmacies and other essential places are open


Whatever is happening in Hubei Province doesn't seem to line up with what is happening in the rest of the world. Even in the rest of Asia cases are just slowly trickling in, outside of that cruise ship.

So it is hard to square stories like below from Jennifer Zeng, a human rights activist. Maybe a lot of what is coming out of Hubei is misinformation by those who oppose the communist government?



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Chang Kai, born in 1964, worked at #Hubei Film Studio, died of #COVID19 in the morning on the #valentinsday . His sister died in the same afternoon. His father died on Jan 28. His mother died on Jan 31. Within 17 days, four members died. His wife was infected too. #coronavirus
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80101 posts
Posted on 2/16/20 at 10:23 am to
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Whatever is happening in Hubei Province doesn't seem to line up with what is happening in the rest of the world. Even in the rest of Asia cases are just slowly trickling in, outside of that cruise ship.


Agree... Something unique about that area and what’s going on. But will we ever know? Not likely with the Govt. Is the WHO still on the ground or were they allowed in and then pushed back out?
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51895 posts
Posted on 2/16/20 at 10:26 am to
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So it is hard to square stories like below from Jennifer Zeng, a human rights activist. Maybe a lot of what is coming out of Hubei is misinformation by those who oppose the communist government?


Ding ding.

As always, the truth is between the two extremes.

Remember, the talk about “trusting China’s numbers” started because of people not buying twitter reports weeks ago that 100k+ were dead. Still haven’t seen anything new leak on that.

If it was anywhere as bad as she was saying, China probably would have cut the internet to make sure the story is suppressed.

Instead we do indeed get videos, except they are either obviously altered or was not filmed when/where it was claimed to be.
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
19805 posts
Posted on 2/16/20 at 10:54 am to
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As always, the truth is between the two extremes.



The good thing about the OT is that regardless of where you land on the spectrum someone will show up to tell you that you are retarded and you should meet them at Sonic
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
117678 posts
Posted on 2/16/20 at 11:06 am to
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someone will show up to tell you that you are retarded and you should meet them at Sonic




So I can catch Corona virus from you retards?


No thanks.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84618 posts
Posted on 2/16/20 at 11:07 am to
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shite is insane outside of China. That's how we know those fricking commies are lying. Tmahit is spreading like wiflgitr in the US. It's taken half a month to go from 7 to 15 cases.


At this rate, every American will have coronavirus in the next 2 years. Prayers sent.


Got damnit. I've got to stop posting in this thread when drinking.

I can't type worth a shite, but my math actually checks out.
Posted by Carolina_Dawg
NC
Member since Nov 2017
267 posts
Posted on 2/16/20 at 11:07 am to
Posted by CivilTiger83
Member since Dec 2017
2525 posts
Posted on 2/16/20 at 11:18 am to
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Ding ding.

As always, the truth is between the two extremes.


So people are endangering themselves and making up lies because they just have an axe to grind against the government? Is that the claim you and slackster are making?
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 2/16/20 at 11:19 am to
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I'm watching carefully as they want me to travel there next month.


Here's a primer for how to answer that...



Unless you want to roll the dice on not being able to come home. See: Honkus.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84618 posts
Posted on 2/16/20 at 11:20 am to
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So people are endangering themselves and making up lies because they just have an axe to grind against the government? Is that the claim you and slackster are making?


Don't lump me in with Vol. I'm not stockpiling frozen whopper patties as a precaution in case of US quarantines.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 2/16/20 at 11:22 am to
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I'm not stockpiling frozen whopper patties as a precaution in case of US quarantines.

Frozen IMPOSSIBLE Whopper patties.

Big difference.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51895 posts
Posted on 2/16/20 at 11:33 am to
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So people are endangering themselves and making up lies because they just have an axe to grind against the government? Is that the claim you and slackster are making?



First off, stop trying to conflate others into groups. Its getting tiresome dealing with "gotchya" posts with points that were made by someone else. Its especially tiresome when you don't even include the guy who I actually agreed with in your derisive statement because he shares you viewpoint more often than not.

Second, I'm not trying to get in the heads of anyone. No data to even begin it. What we do have is the ability to look back and see how many statements were fabricated or false.

And with that skeptism, look at whats being said now:

Apparently we have a racist virus that just hates China.

It is killing entire extended families regardless of age or gender in China...but once it leaves the China border it suddenly becomes a kitten, with a mortality rate lower than a tenth of what we are "told" by these brave crusaders. Even when those infected are ethnic Chinese.
This post was edited on 2/16/20 at 12:29 pm
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51895 posts
Posted on 2/16/20 at 11:36 am to
If yall keep this up, I'm going to get doxxed and fired when they run inventory at end of month.















Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80101 posts
Posted on 2/16/20 at 11:38 am to
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So people are endangering themselves and making up lies because they just have an axe to grind against the government?


Haven’t seen anyone claim that... but never underestimate the desperation of people who are ruled with an iron fist.

Hell, had a friend in GZ tell me the govt was saying that the US orchestrated this bio attack on China So the misinformation comes from both sides of the aisle.

As most in this thread have said, the cases in the likes of SG, Japan, Europe, and the States should be the benchmark for determining this things severity.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134845 posts
Posted on 2/16/20 at 11:46 am to
Haven't read through the thread too much, but I've heard that some are concluding the virus is man made and apparently there's some sort of bio lab directly across the street from the very market that's believed to be the epicenter of the epidemic.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80101 posts
Posted on 2/16/20 at 12:07 pm to
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but I've heard that some are concluding the virus is man made and apparently there's some sort of bio lab directly across the street from the very market that's believed to be the epicenter of the epidemic.


There is a bio lab there and it’s been the conspiracy theory from the start, but 0 evidence to show that.

Pretty shitty bio weapon if so.
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
3020 posts
Posted on 2/16/20 at 12:28 pm to
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Pretty shitty bio weapon if so.


I don't have an opinion on how this virus originated because I'm not an expert in virology and wouldn't have enough data if I was. But, if you wanted a bioweapon that was relatively targetted to a limited demographic and didn't spread widely, this one "seems" to have some favorable characteristics so far.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84618 posts
Posted on 2/16/20 at 12:30 pm to
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But, if you wanted a bioweapon that was relatively targetted to a limited demographic and didn't spread widely, this one "seems" to have some favorable characteristics so far.


How do you make a virus that targets Wuhanians?
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
3020 posts
Posted on 2/16/20 at 12:42 pm to
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How do you make a virus that targets Wuhanians?


If I knew that, then I'd probably have an opinion about the origin of this virus. I'm just commenting on the early apparent spread and severity of disease. An effective bioweapon would not necessarily be one that spread severe disease everywhere on the planet.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84618 posts
Posted on 2/16/20 at 12:44 pm to
Touche.
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