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re: Pedestrian Bridge Collapses at FIU

Posted on 3/15/18 at 4:26 pm to
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24484 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 4:26 pm to
Obviously we have hindsight, but I'm surprised they allowed traffic under the bridge at that stage of construction? How much of something like that needs to be structurally sound before allowing civilians around?

I know accidents happen, but just seems like it was no where close to being supported permanently.
Posted by J Murdah
Member since Jun 2008
40232 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 4:27 pm to
Should have made it out of Lego's to be honest
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24484 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 4:32 pm to
The crane is gone in some later photos, so it either has absolutely nothing to do with this and that's well known or someone is doing some serious CYA.
Posted by TigerBait414
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
1502 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 4:32 pm to
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I know accidents happen, but just seems like it was no where close to being supported permanently.


That's what I'm confused about. I feel like I'm missing something here because their should be no way that a cable stayed bridge without the cables attached and no other obvious means of support should have had people on or under it.
This post was edited on 3/15/18 at 4:33 pm
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21849 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 4:33 pm to
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I feel like I'm missing something here because their should be no way that a cable stayed bridge without the cables attached and no other obvious means of support should have had people on or under it.


Much less someone messing with a strand jack at the same time.
Posted by bowlbound
Member since Oct 2017
629 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 4:34 pm to
quote:

There is a tunnel under LAX? That’s crazy to me that we have the ability to build something that strong.

Yep. Sepulveda Blvd (one of the busiest streets in all of L.A.) goes right under the runways. At night, traffic is at a stand still going under there and into the airport. They arrested a terrorist for planning to blow the thing up several years ago.
Hate being caught in traffic under there.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33146 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 5:00 pm to
You guys see any of the red shoring in the rubble?
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33146 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 5:02 pm to
Have trouble believing that they'd remove shoring before the cable support elements were installed.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24484 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 5:05 pm to
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Have trouble believing that they'd remove shoring before the cable support elements were installed


They were on a red flat bed semi truck, they are definitely gone. It was sticking out on both sides of the bridge quite a ways.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24484 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 5:08 pm to


Wonder how this person made out
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 6:15 pm to
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Not so easy to explain the rating but that thing wouldn't have had anything close to that wight at that height. It is possible that something from a lift above fell on it but it is unlikely.


That cherry picker probably had personnel in it. the crane next to it COULD have been holding a significant load however.
Posted by TigerFred
Feeding hamsters
Member since Aug 2003
27968 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 6:18 pm to
I didn’t see a crane.
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
173778 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 6:21 pm to
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This post was edited on 3/15/18 at 6:38 pm
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 6:25 pm to
quote:

I didn’t see a crane.


My bad.
Posted by yurintroubl
Dallas, Tx.
Member since Apr 2008
30192 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 6:56 pm to
Here's a closer shot of the crane clipped from one of the "immediate aftermath" videos...
Posted by TigerFred
Feeding hamsters
Member since Aug 2003
27968 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 7:02 pm to
That is a rubber tire cherry picker not a crane.

Front outriggers are out but rears aren’t which means there was not a heavy load on it.

At that angle and height the load rating would be pretty low.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
67002 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 7:07 pm to
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Hate being caught in traffic under there

I hate being stuck in traffic under any overpass. Recall the span over the Mississippi in Minneapolis that collapsed due to rusty gussets. Couple that with repeated reports of the condition of the nation's bridges. Further, I worry about a car above flipping over the side.
Posted by BHM
Member since Jun 2012
4116 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 7:43 pm to
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Wonder how this person made out



Through the back driver side door.
Posted by CHEDBALLZ
South Central LA
Member since Dec 2009
23354 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 8:38 pm to
That was the load spreaders and jacking system on top the transportets that as they were movingit into place.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 8:45 pm to
quote:

Wonder how this person made out


I think he will be in church on Sunday.
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