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re: Pat O’Briens lays off 80 and NOLA’s future cloudy

Posted on 9/28/20 at 1:52 pm to
Posted by tgrbaitn08
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Posted on 9/28/20 at 1:52 pm to
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Are conventions happening anywhere right now?



Vegas? Florida?
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Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 9/28/20 at 1:54 pm to
No idea. I thought Vegas was still closed. Did they have fans in the stands yesterday?

Florida would probably allow them if anyone was willing to host one. Which is probably more of the question, will you get attendees.
Posted by PrettyBird
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Posted on 9/28/20 at 1:55 pm to
quote:


Are conventions happening anywhere right now?


I have a conference in FL in October (that I'm not going to) and one just announced for April 2021 in CA (Long Beach).
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 9/28/20 at 1:56 pm to
not sure...I thought I heard that Vegas was almost all the way open

quote:

Florida would probably allow them if anyone was willing to host one. Which is probably more of the question, will you get attendees.



Florida
Posted by Got Blaze
Youngsville
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 9/28/20 at 2:04 pm to
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No idea. I thought Vegas was still closed. Did they have fans in the stands yesterday?

LV played @ NE yesterday. Quote from Raiders owner Mark Davis ... “After intensive consultation with healthcare officials and state and community leaders, we have made the difficult decision to play the Las Vegas Raiders 2020 inaugural season at Allegiant Stadium without fans in attendance. This decision is based on our commitment to protect the health of our fans and the entire community in response to the coronavirus pandemic affecting us all.”
This post was edited on 9/28/20 at 2:05 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/28/20 at 2:31 pm to
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. The end game has to be the hope of some massive federal funding

It's pretty clear that the Democratic game plan is to have these cities shut down under the promise that Biden will bail them out after he wins.

quote:

but even if that ever comes, it'll be far too late for many of the businesses

They only care about getting trillions for the government losses. That's why it's crazy that she's telling people that the federal government has to make it right when they're talking about private losses. It would be impossible to create a nationwide bailout for businesses. if they did it would not be run by the mayors of cities anyway
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 9/28/20 at 2:33 pm to
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t sure...I thought I heard that Vegas was almost all the way open


That’s what I’ve heard too. My buddy got back a few weeks ago and said the same, bug to be honest, I’m not sure when he’s comparing it to. He just said people were everywhere, mask and no mask.
Posted by Armymann50
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Posted on 9/28/20 at 3:15 pm to
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Posted by fallguy_1978
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Posted on 9/28/20 at 3:17 pm to
What is this from?
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 3:20 pm to
Sun God
Posted by SerenityNow
Chicago
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 9/28/20 at 3:23 pm to
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its one thing for a city like NY to have approached this the way they did, the fact is economically they'll eventually recover

NOLA should have been open for business stealing conventions left and right because the hospitality industry is its life blood. The end game has to be the hope of some massive federal funding but even if that ever comes, it'll be far too late for many of the businesses. Plus its NOLA so that money will just get put into the wrong hands anyway. Amazing how stupid and short sighted the leadership there is.


Exactly. There is no data the proves NOLA should be as closed as it is. And to compound the situation, FL is open and all the other surrounding states will be following suit.

They could easily be opening the city up, getting back to recovery and try to start actually poaching conventions from some of those major cities like Chicago, NYC, etc. where the lockdowns continue. NOLA needs the business way more long-term than they do.

It's easy to see why Perry lost his mind earlier this year. He knew what was at stake. The rest of the city government seems to think this magical funding will cure all woes. None of that helps if your entire tax base has shut its doors. And after all this, why, why would anyone new actually want to open a business in Orleans parish?

It's like you said though - just completely short-sighted all the way around.
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 9/28/20 at 3:55 pm to
quote:

Are conventions happening anywhere right now?



damn you are one obtuse MFer

stealing conventions in 2021/22/23 from blue state sites (like San Diego)

instead San Antonio, Orlando and Atlanta are going to feast because their red state Govs are accelerating the return to business
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
89738 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 4:06 pm to
quote:

It's pretty clear that the Democratic game plan is to have these cities shut down under the promise that Biden will bail them out after he wins.


Recovery Plan Straight from Destroya's desk


Biden wins, get that Federal Paper
or
Biden loses, burn the city down
then
Sell what's left to whomever will cut the biggest broker fee
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109451 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 4:16 pm to
I’d be shocked if we EVER see national trade conventions again on even 50% of the scale we have had in the past. Dire for a place like New Orleans and a few others.
Posted by boxcarbarney
Above all things, be a man
Member since Jul 2007
25531 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 4:19 pm to
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They BUS voters to the polls every single election, and Reverend tells them who to vote for.


Its worse than that. They pull up to a neighborhood with a bus. "Everyone who gets on and votes for our candidate gets a beer and a pack of cigarettes."

Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 4:25 pm to
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I’d be shocked if we EVER see national trade conventions again on even 50% of the scale we have had in the past. Dire for a place like New Orleans and a few others.


there is a international convention still has the dates in Mid December 2020 on their website....so far it hasnt been rescheduled, cancelled or moved somewhere else
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109451 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 4:29 pm to
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there is a international convention still has the dates in Mid December 2020 on their website....so far it hasnt been rescheduled, cancelled or moved somewhere else



Okay? I just don’t see how there’s any way the whole massive trade convention model is not turned on its ear forever. I guess we shall see.

This isn’t even a point focused on New Orleans except for the fact that it potentially impacts it rather disproportionately.

ETA, I see how my post could have been interpreted to think I just meant convention business in New Orleans. I meant overall nationwide and even internationally.
This post was edited on 9/28/20 at 4:34 pm
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
44675 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 5:20 pm to
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As for Mardi Gras--is the big question mark right now as one idea is to have Mardi Gras but with NO throws and no spectators. The Krewes will roll down the parade routes and spectators can watch them roll virtually. I'm unsure how many Krewes will actually roll under this model but it is a leading contender if we have Mardi Gras in 2021. Everyone knows that Mardi Gras is the economic engine for the entire area so if it gets cancelled the carnage will be catastrophic for every single restaurant/bar/retail establishment not only in Orleans but also in Jefferson.

This can’t possibly be a consideration.

First, who the hell wants to watch a parade virtually?

Second, Would they have the resources to keep the entire parade route clear of people?

Third, how would this help restaurants and hotels if the parades are virtual? How many tourists do they expect to come in town and spend money on hotels to watch a virtual parade?
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 9/28/20 at 5:37 pm to
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Okay? I just don’t see how there’s any way the whole massive trade convention model is not turned on its ear forever. I guess we shall see.

I don't know if I believe that. At some point, we'll have moved on past the Rona and still have a desire to run up insane bar and restaurant tabs on our vendor's company credit card.
Posted by Legion of Doom
Old Metry
Member since Jan 2018
5561 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 5:48 pm to
Fourth. My wife rides in Muses. There is no way in hell that she would spend a dime to ride in a virtual parade. In fact she was kinda shitty that last year the Destroyer forced them to ride on Friday night without bands and marching groups.
I can’t imagine a lot of people spending several thousands of dollars to ride in a virtual parade. That’s a really dumb idea.
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