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re: Passenger on an American Airlines flight recorded when a bird struck an engine last night

Posted on 12/13/24 at 12:28 pm to
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 12/13/24 at 12:28 pm to
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Even if I'm in the window seat and see it on fire?


it's on fire the whole time you're sitting there
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
69057 posts
Posted on 12/13/24 at 12:29 pm to
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not necessarily, they can take quite a beating


That's bad arse. I thought basically anything solid through a turbine = totally wrecked turbine.

Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
33115 posts
Posted on 12/13/24 at 12:29 pm to
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it's on fire the whole time you're sitting there

Fair point
Posted by TigersnJeeps
FL Panhandle
Member since Jan 2021
2410 posts
Posted on 12/13/24 at 12:32 pm to
At Arnold Engineering Development Center between Nashville and Chattanooga, the USAF had/has a chicken gun where they fired carcasses at airplane canopies.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
70894 posts
Posted on 12/13/24 at 12:37 pm to
I hit some birds flying a Cessna once. Cracked the windscreen, dented the fairing but all was fine. Except the shite stains in my pants when it happened.
Posted by ApisMellifera
SWLA
Member since Apr 2023
571 posts
Posted on 12/13/24 at 12:41 pm to
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I thought basically anything solid through a turbine = totally wrecked turbine.


Nah, smaller birds get ingested often. The rotors have limits for how much they can be bent/chipped. Many time we could file them down to a certain point.

The bigger the bird, the bigger the problem. That looked like a fairly large bird.
Posted by Traveler
I'm not late-I'm early for tomorrow
Member since Sep 2003
25576 posts
Posted on 12/13/24 at 12:55 pm to
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I thought basically anything solid through a turbine = totally wrecked turbine

Unless there is loss of blade fragments in the compressor section, any bird fragments are pulverized before they reach the turbine inlet nozzles and blades. Of course they are inspected and once deemed serviceable they usually put back in service.
Posted by jaytothen
Member since Jan 2020
7576 posts
Posted on 12/13/24 at 12:55 pm to
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How dumb are birds, yo?


Chicken about to ban your arse
Posted by BogeyTX
Member since Apr 2018
872 posts
Posted on 12/13/24 at 1:01 pm to
This thread has some interesting information. Good stuff.
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
6950 posts
Posted on 12/13/24 at 1:05 pm to
does this hurt the bird
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
25755 posts
Posted on 12/13/24 at 1:08 pm to
I would say a little FOD never hurt anyone but that's not true at all.
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
6950 posts
Posted on 12/13/24 at 1:09 pm to
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it really depends on the scenario, I've shut down an engine and had to divert and not a soul outside of the cockpit(on the jet,) was aware that there was any non-normal situation at all

except when they got off the plane at New Iberia Regional Airport instead of Dallas
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 12/13/24 at 1:10 pm to
Any air incident especially with commercial air traffic gets investigated.

Lessons learned and all.
Posted by StanSmith
Member since May 2018
1023 posts
Posted on 12/13/24 at 1:10 pm to
I could see where shutting down an engine several hours into a flight may not draw much attention since many folks are either zonked out or engrossed in a movie. Post take off that may slip by some until you have handled the situation and made the announcement that you are returning to the airport. If I am flying with my wife I would have to keep my mouth shut unless it was too obvious due to the engine shaking like an unbalanced load in a clothes dryer.
Curious as to the circumstances of any engine shutdown you have had. Have you had a birdstrike?
I am assuming that an engine failure on takeoff is practiced quite frequently in a simulator but I would think it is a real pucker inducing event in real life. The one aspect of handling emergency procedures that most fail to appreciate is doing it quickly and correctly the first time through since your time to act at low altitude is severely constrained. As a friend who was a paratrooper told me, you have the rest of your life to deploy your reserve chute.
Posted by DesScorp
Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
8409 posts
Posted on 12/13/24 at 1:14 pm to
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quote:The FAA has launched an investigation into the incident. What the hell is there to investigate? Checking to see if the bird was tied to a terrorist group?


“Passengers report that they distinctly heard the bird yell Alahu Akbar before diving into the engine. “
Posted by StanSmith
Member since May 2018
1023 posts
Posted on 12/13/24 at 1:22 pm to
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it's on fire the whole time you're sitting there

Very true but a bit unnerving when you actually are looking into the engine or happen to catch the last bits of that duck l orange come out the exhaust.
Posted by StanSmith
Member since May 2018
1023 posts
Posted on 12/13/24 at 1:30 pm to
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does this hurt the bird


Not if he was wearing a helmet or was under full anethstesia.

I have heard of folks on carriers being sucked into engines. You can find a video of a sailor getting sucked into engine of an A6. He survived since he was hung up in the duct and his body didn't contact the blades. It was at night and there was a nice fireball from some of the debris that exited the exhaust. The plane was hooked to the cat and the pilot was focused on task. He noticed a drop in oil pressure or a warning light right before he got the word in his head set.
Posted by Pitt Road
Floriduh
Member since Aug 2017
969 posts
Posted on 12/13/24 at 2:45 pm to
It's pretty dark in that video and most birds that fly at that altitude are already settled in for the night.

Owls and other night birds don't fly at those altitudes.

Unless the lighting on the video is way off, that's a weird time for a bird strike.
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
6950 posts
Posted on 12/13/24 at 3:14 pm to
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It's pretty dark in that video and most birds that fly at that altitude are already settled in for the night. Owls and other night birds don't fly at those altitudes. Unless the lighting on the video is way off, that's a weird time for a bird strike.

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