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re: Part of the new Hard Rock Hotel collapses (NOLA) 3 dead, Cranes Down-ish

Posted on 10/16/19 at 12:28 pm to
Posted by Ben Hur
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2013
1006 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 12:28 pm to
Direct to video LINK
Posted by Mr Perfect
Member since Mar 2010
17836 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 12:30 pm to
sad stuff. jail the person(s) responsible for life.
Posted by Capt ST
High Plains
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 10/16/19 at 12:34 pm to
If they were using illegals they would have just fired them and brought in another busload.

Watching that video, supervision should have been raising questions about that piss poor design.
Posted by Bedhog
Denham Springs
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Posted on 10/16/19 at 12:36 pm to
Posted by lsutiger2010
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 10/16/19 at 12:36 pm to
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This post was edited on 10/19/21 at 10:54 am
Posted by LSUcdro
Republic of West Florida
Member since Sep 2009
11362 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 12:37 pm to
some people are about to get paid
Posted by Douglas Quaid
Mars
Member since Mar 2010
4121 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 12:37 pm to
quote:

supervision


That is really what I meant. Surely there were some in a position of authority on the site who should've recognized the danger even if only for his or her own safety.
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34216 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 12:40 pm to
That bent pole is the temporary support brace?
Posted by Bedhog
Denham Springs
Member since Apr 2019
3741 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 12:41 pm to
quote:

That bent pole is the temporary support brace?


correct.
Posted by PillPusher
Gulf Coast
Member since Oct 2009
5947 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 12:43 pm to
That poor Mexican in that video probably couldn’t say a word about it to any kind of boss without being fired on the spot.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 10/16/19 at 12:43 pm to
It looks sort of lonely.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 12:44 pm to
quote:

That is really what I meant. Surely there were some in a position of authority on the site who should've recognized the danger even if only for his or her own safety.

If it wasn't criminal before, I would think that the evidence coming out that structural issues may have been known about before the collapse absolutely move it into the criminal realm.

It's one thing to have a building that suddenly collapses and kills people due to a structural issue. It's a whole different story if obvious warning signs were known and people were left in that building who were killed when it came down. That's not just gross negligence. That's wanton disregard of human life.
Posted by Bedhog
Denham Springs
Member since Apr 2019
3741 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 12:44 pm to
wtf kinda obamaphone camera is that shite
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
147182 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 12:44 pm to
quote:

NOLA.com just posted what appears to be pretty damning video of sagging concrete slabs 2 days before the collapse.

Citadel filing for bankruptcy in 3... 2...
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 12:45 pm to
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That bent pole is the temporary support brace?

SOP is to put a whole lot of them up, one every couple of feet. There's a picture MrLSU posted a few pages back that shows several floors of concrete being supported at an earlier point in the project. It looks like a forest. That one apparently was so bent that it was jammed into place and couldn't be removed, per the narration of the video.

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This post was edited on 10/16/19 at 12:48 pm
Posted by jamboybarry
Member since Feb 2011
33256 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 12:46 pm to
The open spans on that deck are crazy

If they reshored, there is an email or meeting minutes with the SE regarding the issue.
Posted by Ben Hur
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2013
1006 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 12:47 pm to
quote:

That poor Mexican in that video probably couldn’t say a word about it to any kind of boss without being fired on the spot.


He's probably only allowed to talk to his foreman, and his foreman said "That's not our problem."
This post was edited on 10/16/19 at 12:49 pm
Posted by Capt ST
High Plains
Member since Aug 2011
13674 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 12:48 pm to
Yeah, I don’t know how someone that’s built anything could look at those big unsupported sections and think it’s okay.
Posted by Anaximander
3524 Third St New Orleans, LA
Member since Jun 2018
3412 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 12:49 pm to
How involved are city inspectors in this type of potentially gross negligence? Are their regular inspections of a project such as this?
Posted by NOLAGT
Over there
Member since Dec 2012
14014 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 12:51 pm to
I don’t know if this vid has been posted yet of a few days before the collapse showing some beams bending...they knew.

Sorry for FB vid

LINK
This post was edited on 10/16/19 at 12:55 pm
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