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re: Part of the new Hard Rock Hotel collapses (NOLA) 3 dead, Cranes Down-ish
Posted on 10/23/19 at 9:02 am to fightin tigers
Posted on 10/23/19 at 9:02 am to fightin tigers
How liable is the architect in this?
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Posted on 10/23/19 at 11:56 am to fightin tigers
Any pictures/video of the crane mast stuck in the street?
Posted on 10/23/19 at 11:58 am to tgrbaitn08
quote:you call this living?
Jefferson Parish do you live in?
Posted on 10/23/19 at 12:15 pm to tgrbaitn08
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tgrbaitn08
Glad to see this retard still melting 3 days later. Stay strong little buddy. I believe in you.
Posted on 10/23/19 at 12:17 pm to CHEDBALLZ
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Any pictures/video of the crane mast stuck in the street?
The pictures are all in this thread if you go back over the last five pages.
Posted on 10/23/19 at 12:48 pm to Sal Minio
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How liable is the architect in this?
Not sure how the design team was setup for this one, but usually in design-bid-build the architect subs out the structural engineering to an outside shop. I assume that's what was also done here with Heaslip so if it is in fact a design issue, Heaslip will bear the brunt of that
Posted on 10/23/19 at 3:02 pm to tgrbaitn08
I assume you didn't see it and no I am not sharing it.. in one of the initial drone or news casts you can see part of one of the deceased (RIP). From the picture, I dont see any way to recover that body without a significant part of the current dynamic of the failed structure changing. In other words he is sandwiched between two floors that have failed that are multiple floors still hanging above and crushed below.
Posted on 10/23/19 at 3:32 pm to fightin tigers
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I'm going to go ahead and change sides to there being a hole under the crane.
Is anyone else utterly impressed by how well the operator's cab survived? The cutting charges that separated the jib and the counterweight went off right next to it, so it was blown up, fell a couple hundred feet, the spire above it was driven into the street like a pile by the weight of 60-70 feet of the main mast and that big heavy turntable that is strong enough to support the entire rotating part of the crane. The whole thing stopped moving when the cab reached the street, and it isn't crumpled.
If I'm in the marketing department for that crane manufacturer, I'm trying to figure out how to use that while distancing myself from the rest of the debacle.
ETA: Nevermind. That's stupid. How's shite gonna fall ON a crane?
This post was edited on 10/23/19 at 3:45 pm
Posted on 10/23/19 at 3:38 pm to fightin tigers
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I'm going to go ahead and change sides to there being a hole under the crane.
I'm more impressed that the buck hoist has survived all of this(except for the mast)
Posted on 10/23/19 at 11:16 pm to CHEDBALLZ
CDI posted their video of the crane demo today.
CDI Crane Demo (YouTube)
From description:
CDI Crane Demo (YouTube)
From description:
quote:
CDI’s plan called for the counterweight of the Alpha Crane, closest to Canal Street, to be released with explosives to swing inward to fall within the Hard Rock footprint. The boom would be released and dropped to hook over the edge of the roof of the hotel to prevent the rotation of the counterweight from pulling the upper mast backward toward the newly renovated Saenger Theater across North Rampart Street. The Alpha crane mast was severed at mid-height and felled, per plan into the previously damaged Hard Rock upper structural steel construction for cautious subsequent removal using conventional demolition operations.
The Charlie Crane, to the north, was already inclined 8° to the northwest as a result of the original collapse and could not safely be drawn back into the building’s footprint. The counterweight was explosively felled to swing it inward, to impact within the Hard Rock footprint, before the mast and boom were felled to the northwest onto protective matting placed by DH Griffin over utilities in North Rampart Street.
This post was edited on 10/23/19 at 11:23 pm
Posted on 10/24/19 at 1:47 pm to TigerstuckinMS
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Nevermind. That's stupid. How's shite gonna fall ON a crane?
From above it, I think.
Posted on 10/24/19 at 1:51 pm to LCA131
Costing New Orleans $400K per day and thats not including losss revenue from businesses.
Posted on 10/24/19 at 2:02 pm to tk for tu juan
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CDI’s plan called for the counterweight of the Alpha Crane, closest to Canal Street, to be released with explosives to swing inward to fall within the Hard Rock footprint. The boom would be released and dropped to hook over the edge of the roof of the hotel to prevent the rotation of the counterweight from pulling the upper mast backward toward the newly renovated Saenger Theater across North Rampart Street. The Alpha crane mast was severed at mid-height and felled, per plan into the previously damaged Hard Rock upper structural steel construction for cautious subsequent removal using conventional demolition operations.
The Charlie Crane, to the north, was already inclined 8° to the northwest as a result of the original collapse and could not safely be drawn back into the building’s footprint. The counterweight was explosively felled to swing it inward, to impact within the Hard Rock footprint, before the mast and boom were felled to the northwest onto protective matting placed by DH Griffin over utilities in North Rampart Street.
so contrary to what all the controlled explosive demolition experts on the OT said, this operation did largely go according to plan?
This post was edited on 10/24/19 at 2:06 pm
Posted on 10/24/19 at 2:16 pm to tk for tu juan
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CDI posted their video of the crane demo today.
08 is about to head in here and tell you they are just covering their arse.
Posted on 10/24/19 at 2:35 pm to fightin tigers
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08 is about to head in here and tell you they are just covering their arse.
Hopefully not since he is currently lending his knowledge on ALL things to the thread on the pumps announcement.
Posted on 10/24/19 at 2:49 pm to Mudminnow
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$400 k a day
I wonder how much of that is legit and how much of that is Latoya hoping for a payday which may never come. I work across Canal Street periodically. When I left on Tuesday and turned onto Elk, there were no less than a dozen officers standing around talking on the streetcar tracks on Canal. There were also a couple of fire trucks out there. I couldn’t see anything going on at the actual construction site.
Posted on 10/24/19 at 3:09 pm to LCA131
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Hopefully not since he is currently lending his knowledge on ALL things to the thread on the pumps announcement.
We are blessed to have him on the OT to make sure all threads are filled with accurate information.
Posted on 10/24/19 at 3:19 pm to notiger1997
You’re welcome arse face
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