re: Parents under 35, do you spank your children?

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no it hasn't unfortunately

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Are you serious. Maybe if it happened more we wouldn’t be having all the problems that kids these days are causing. I’m not saying to beat the shite out of them but a little tough love every now and then

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in other words you don’t have an answer

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I did answer just that in another post but you can feel free to think I have no answer to that question.

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But I have one for you - if the 1.5 y/o starts to climb and I tell him no - he gets one chance - then I raise my voice for the second time, the third is a warning of incoming spanking - 3 strikes you’re out - so he gets spanked

This may happen a few times before he’s 6, so by the time he’s 6 he should know better - if not - he gets spanked without a warning

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Your hypothetical scenario proves my point fwiw, the spanking didn't stop the act in your scenario. It also presupposes spanking is the only way, it's necessary. It may very well work for you but it's just not true that it's the only way. It's simply not.

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my daughter is an OG spanking her does nothing she just stares at me

She actually responds better to timeout.

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My dad learned quickly that spanking started to have little effect on me, as it was over quickly and I could go about life. Writing sentences, when I was old enough, oh, that was torture. "I will not lie to my parents" for 8 pages, back and front. It took away from playing outside.

I guess these days, any punishment that takes them away from their "devices" would be meaningful.

I do believe, however, that a quick pop to a littler one, with a stern warning, when they are going to do something that puts them in physical danger (stove, running in to the street, etc.) is ok. I know this means the parent isn't supervising, but I assume a parent's head can't be on a 24/7 swivel. I don't equate this to a spanking.

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it doesn’t prove your point

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Then you missed my point. Your scenario clearly said you spanked the kid for years and he still was acting out. That quite literally proves my point, word for word pretty much. I'm curious as to what part of that you're missing?

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You have never said what to do other wise

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You seem to be asking for a mythical answer that doesn't exist. You're asking what actions will bssically make your kid always listen and never act up. There are none.

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unless you’re agreeing with helicopter parent poster

Which helicopter parenting is fine until they’re 25 and don’t know how to wash clothes

Kids resent parents that breathe down their necks

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Has nothing to do with anything I've said, can't speak to that.

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Parents under 35

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Is this still a thing?

On vacation my 12 year old was antagonizing my 15 year old. Had enough and popped him in back of head in front of about 50 people.

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No worries at all, I know others think that too, but again, I'm confident is because people can't have rational discussions these days with folks who differing opinions. Not that you'd care to or should care to, but if you note any negative back and forth I have with someone that gets into the name calling etc, it will always always start as a rational discussion and the other person will ALWAYS be the one who gets pissy for no good reason...it'll never ever ever be me.

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As far as I can tell, your first post in this thread ended with this:

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If one quite literally can't get a handle on their kid any other way thank spanking them, then that's a solid sign of a pretty shitty parent.

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People generally don’t like being called shitty parents. I read your story about moving into a new house. Imagine if I replied with something like this:

“If you can’t get a handle on your kid without bribing him with toys, that’s a solid sign of being a shitty parent.”

You think you’d respond as if it was just a typical “rational discussion?” I think of you were honest about it, you’d probably be a little offended at someone implying that you’re raising spoiled brats.

Personally I don’t spank my little girl. I haven’t had to, and I hope I never have to in the future because I would absolutely hate it. But she’s also the type to melt down at the mere prospect of being in trouble.

I certainly don’t judge parents that do spank their kids, any more than I judge parents who are all about positive reinforcement. There are different approaches and there’s no universal right or wrong way to handle discipline.

Don’t have kids yet but my view is spanking is necessary when other forms of punishment fail to correct the behavior. And it should never be excessive or overly painful, just firm enough to get the point across

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There you go, the modern viewpoint in a nutshell.

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I recently visited some relatives and concluded that while their kids appear to be generally good, their attitudes would be much more respectful if they were slapped a couple of times growing up. Not much, but a humbling lesson a few times and respect would be learned.