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Over 280 Cal STEM faculty say that school admissions needs to go back to the old ways

Posted on 5/28/26 at 2:00 pm
Posted by tigerskin
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 2:00 pm
Posted by tigerskin
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 2:02 pm to
So now they figured out it is impossible to simultaneously teach the same subject to intelligent people and those with middle school abilities.

Sucks for them they had to find out the hard way

“We now observe preparation gaps so severe that instructors must reteach middle school mathematics”
This post was edited on 5/28/26 at 2:05 pm
Posted by tigerskin
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Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 2:06 pm to
DEI is not good for rich professors either.
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 2:07 pm to
Seems like Cal is gonna have a lot of faculty turnover in the near future.
Posted by AgCoug
Houston
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 2:07 pm to
Posted by forkedintheroad
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 2:09 pm to
Brave of them to be biting the hand that feeds them.
Posted by tigerskin
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 2:09 pm to
Posted by DrrTiger
Gulf of America
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 2:12 pm to
Most of the those professors lean hard left.

Don't they know the prevailing leftist think is that those tests are racist?
Posted by SantaFe
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 2:19 pm to
I taught 7th grade Louisiana History and 8th grade American History for 22 years.

I've seen a majority of children that did not know their multiplication tables above 6.

I've had students tell me that it was not possible to subtract 19 from 27.

This is a national security problem.
Posted by LSUBFA83
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 2:51 pm to
But....mmm...equity!
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 3:04 pm to
quote:


DEI is not good for rich professors either.


Yes it was much better back in the day when only the slack jawed dead eyed inbred frick sons of wealthy and well connected white people were allowed to have an education....sometime before the GI bill for instance. The fear of competition based on merit is sooooo overwhelmingly strong in the anit DEI crowd...and the reason is abundantly clear....they can't compete on merit and must rely on connections and biases and fear and ignorance or they find themselves mired in middle management and eking out a living from the hard scrabble dirt that is corporate America....sad
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 3:14 pm to
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I taught 7th grade Louisiana History and 8th grade American History for 22 years.

I've seen a majority of children that did not know their multiplication tables above 6.

I've had students tell me that it was not possible to subtract 19 from 27.

This is a national security problem.


I had a teacher tell me in the 4th grade that dew fell at night like rain, she did not understand why her car windshield being damp every morning in May didn't mean were hadn't had any rain lately....therefore it is fair to say ALL teachers, every last one who ever took up the profession, was dumber than a sack of rocks....she was also white so it is therefore fair to say the same thing about all white people. She was also married to a man and had kids so presumably at least heterosexual at times, a christian who talked about her faith openly and, as I found out a few years later in High School, a staunch Republican...therefore it is fair to say anyone in any of those same demographics is dumber than a sack of hammers....

How did a History teacher know that the majority of children did not know their multiplication tables? Maybe their math teachers were teaching history?
Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 3:19 pm to
Professors are finding themselves in an impossible logistical bind. They report having to spend valuable lecture time reteaching middle-school-level fractions, percentages, and basic algebra while simultaneously trying to teach university-level engineering, economics, physics, and calculus.

UC keeps prolonging the issue by accepting people into STEM fields that are clearly not ready.
Posted by chinhoyang
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 3:23 pm to
I've never had the impression that most STEM and math professors are raging liberals.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 4:48 pm to


This is the educated ladies and gentlemen.
Posted by TouchedTheAxeIn82
near the Apple spaceship
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 5:07 pm to
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I've never had the impression that most STEM and math professors are raging liberals.

^This. STEM faculty had to have been the most alarmed by the idea of reducing or eliminating standardized tests from the admissions process.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 5:08 pm to
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Sucks for them they had to find out the hard way

Maybe that should have been an aptitude test for the professors.
Posted by GeauxTigers123
Member since Feb 2007
3809 posts
Posted on 5/28/26 at 5:11 pm to
quote:

DEI is not good for rich professors either.


Eh, a lot of college professors don’t make that much compared to what they could in the private sector.

I will say some engineering and business disciplines pay the professors well.
Posted by TigerOnThe Hill
Springhill, LA
Member since Sep 2008
7611 posts
Posted on 5/28/26 at 5:17 pm to
One of my friends has a daughter-in-law (sorry, no pics) who applied to a very competitive national private professional program during the early days of covid. Although the GRE requirement was cancelled because of covid, she had a good score and included it in her application. She was wait-listed a short time, but got accepted. By the time of her graduation 3 years later, a third of her class had dropped out and the school was still struggling w/ the cause. The daughter-in-law recognized that the vast majority of those who dropped out were subpar students. Standardized tests should not be the ONLY basis for acceptance, but they should be a PART of the assessment.
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