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re: Outrage alert: White woman hunts a giraffe in Africa, so you know what happens next

Posted on 7/3/18 at 12:56 pm to
Posted by rowbear1922
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2008
15792 posts
Posted on 7/3/18 at 12:56 pm to
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She go #$%% herself. That's how I feel about it.
Deserves all the outrage that comes with it.


Why?

Let me guess, yet another poster who doesn't read the articles.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122197 posts
Posted on 7/3/18 at 12:56 pm to
First, she didn't really "hunt" the giraffe. She was probably brought to a location where there were giraffes, she aimed and then shot.

I am sure there are hunters on this board that will agree this isn't hunting. Anyone who can pay the fee to be brought out there and use these animals as target practice.

Honestly, I never seen the point in this. Why kill a giraffe? Look, if it was an act of survival and she was doing what she had to do, then I would applaud her, but if you pay someone to bring you to an endangered species, like a giraffe, for you to just point a gun at and pull the trigger.. Then tell people you did it for conservation. You are just going kill shite because you have the money to do so and you are insulting people's intelligence by making up some bullshite. So if you did it, at least own up to it.

But don't call this hunting.
Posted by rowbear1922
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2008
15792 posts
Posted on 7/3/18 at 1:00 pm to
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First, she didn't really "hunt" the giraffe. She was probably brought to a location where there were giraffes, she aimed and then shot.


Hearsay.

quote:

endangered species, like a giraffe


False.

quote:

Then tell people you did it for conservation


How do you know otherwise?

Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46208 posts
Posted on 7/3/18 at 1:01 pm to
quote:

She go #$%% herself. That's how I feel about it.


...another one who didn't read the article or replies.

I've underlined the common trait of these tards.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 7/3/18 at 1:02 pm to
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So let's take away the #1 incentive for landowners to conserve the population and see how those numbers look in a few years?


Yeah, it's a necessary evil. Douchey foreign hunters pay thousands of dollars to kill a tall cow, and that money provides economic incentive to keep most of the animals protected as much as possible. They all need each other, but let's (not you specifically) not get carried away and say the hunters are doing this out of some altruistic concern for the well-being of giraffes.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46208 posts
Posted on 7/3/18 at 1:02 pm to
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Why kill a giraffe?


Read the article dumbass.

Or the myriad of replies in this thread detailing why.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
24837 posts
Posted on 7/3/18 at 1:02 pm to
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Most of these are taken off private ranches. The private ranches want to attract more hunters, so it is in their best interest to grow and sustain the herd and protect them from poachers.

That’s what you think but there’s been very little to suggest the money is actually going to conservation or even to the local communities.

quote:

You should probably stop commenting on things you are supremely ignorant about.




Could say the same to you
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122197 posts
Posted on 7/3/18 at 1:02 pm to
quote:

quote:
endangered species, like a giraffe


False.


Giraffes Silently Slip Onto The Endangered Species List
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46208 posts
Posted on 7/3/18 at 1:03 pm to
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there’s been very little to suggest the money is actually going to conservation or even to the local communities.


Then where is it going?
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 7/3/18 at 1:05 pm to
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Why? Let me guess, yet another poster who doesn't read the articles.


What is in the article that changes the fact these trophy hunters pay $50k for the opportunity to pull the trigger and stroke their ego?

Do you think she's paying that money and letting a guide pull the trigger? It would still be just as helpful to the conservation efforts and local stomachs.
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
27337 posts
Posted on 7/3/18 at 1:05 pm to
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Hunters provide an economic incentive to conserve and grow the population.

Believe it or not, not every culture values animals as much as we do and some require incentives to help save them.

This shouldn't be hard to understand.


Yet it is because they allow their hearts to override their minds. Watched too much Disney when they were children.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46208 posts
Posted on 7/3/18 at 1:06 pm to
The very first paragraph of your article:

quote:

he International Union for the Conservation of Nature, the body that administers the world’s official endangered species list, announced yesterday that it was moving the giraffe from a species of Least Concern to Vulnerable status in its Red List of Threatened Species report.


Vulnerable status != Endangered status.

You really have an issue with reading articles before spouting off don't you?
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86229 posts
Posted on 7/3/18 at 1:06 pm to
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That’s what you think but there’s been very little to suggest the money is actually going to conservation or even to the local communities.


So you think it is not in the best interest for the landowners to sustain their herds?



Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122197 posts
Posted on 7/3/18 at 1:07 pm to
quote:

Then where is it going?


I don't know. I doubt there would be much corruption involved..
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77270 posts
Posted on 7/3/18 at 1:07 pm to
Who cares about altruism?

Has anyone made that argument?

Let’s not move the goalposts.

What we know is that an action that you and others find distasteful has a positive effect on the environment and economy of a 3rd world country.

Altruism is irrelevant.

Has anyone posted articles pertaining to what happened to some of the animal populations where they outlawed these safari hunts?
This post was edited on 7/3/18 at 1:09 pm
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
25829 posts
Posted on 7/3/18 at 1:08 pm to
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Why is it a stupid kill? Please explain.


Humans are on path to endanger yet another species. Yea, let's celebrate he conservation lie.

The funny thing, personally I am a super-pro hunter. Optics are everything and dumb arse shite like this needs to end.

Make no mistake, this kill did more to hurt hunting rights than help mythical conservation.

You can be pro-hunter and not condone dumb arse shite like this.

However I forget where we are, go on OT-L with your bad self.
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
27337 posts
Posted on 7/3/18 at 1:09 pm to
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What is in the article that changes the fact these trophy hunters pay $50k for the opportunity to pull the trigger and stroke their ego?


Spoken just like someone who has never been hunting in S Africa. That 50K buys you a lot more than just the opportunity to pull the trigger. That is all inclusive, everything, flights, meals, lodging, sight seeing, safari. Plus the opportunity to hunt with and watch native hunter/trackers who were directly descended from the first hunters ever!

It's a chance to experience the local villages and see how those people live, learn their customs and dine with them on their food.

But go right ahead and consider the ONLY reason anyone would travel to S Africa would be to "pull the trigger."
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
13047 posts
Posted on 7/3/18 at 1:09 pm to
IUCN Redlist is not equal to the Endangered Species List, nor does Vulnerable equate to Endangered.

Congratulations. You fell for it.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46208 posts
Posted on 7/3/18 at 1:09 pm to
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Humans are on path to endanger yet another species.


That is irrelevant to this situation. The bull had to be put down for the overall health of the herd. Why not let some american pay $50k to do it?

You've yet to address this.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
24837 posts
Posted on 7/3/18 at 1:09 pm to
Ok let’s see these countries are extremely corrupt and incompetent so take a guess.


They don’t know how to properly manage the programs and probably line their own pockets.
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