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re: Outrage alert: White woman hunts a giraffe in Africa, so you know what happens next

Posted on 7/3/18 at 9:47 am to
Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
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Posted on 7/3/18 at 9:47 am to
I agree



While I see and argued the good of these types of hunt in this thread, I personally have no desire to do it


Even if I had the money, I don't think I would go over there and do it. Just doesn't peak my interest
Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 7/3/18 at 9:47 am to
Meh.....I think exotic big game hunts are for douchebags but I also know the money goes into conservation and the animals killed are needed to be culled.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/3/18 at 9:48 am to
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I said they tend to be douchey


And you have absolutely nothing to base that on.
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The larger point is that these people aren’t doing it so they can feed a village and protect other giraffes. They do it for their own satisfaction. Again, not that there’s anything wrong with it since the end result is positive, but it’s okay to admit both sides of this.


No one is saying they are doing it for purely selfless motives I'm fairly certain. That doesn't make them douches. Just admit you're talking out of your arse as an emotional response to a nice looking animal being put down and we can move on.
This post was edited on 7/3/18 at 9:50 am
Posted by Hangover Haven
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Posted on 7/3/18 at 9:49 am to
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I know a girl that her family has a creek behind their house where her and her dad will walk along the creek in plain clothes and shoot wood ducks during the season.


and it's not as easy as people think... Love bringing my marsh/decoys on a pond buddies out to hunt Woodies... Look like fish out of water...

I dated a girl who was a vegan, hated the fact that I hunted and fished... Talked to her recently, she told me she got the whole hunting thing now. She hates animal farming, especially poultry farms, and that she would rather see people hunt for meat...
This post was edited on 7/3/18 at 9:52 am
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 7/3/18 at 9:49 am to
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No one is saying there are doing it for purely selfless motives I'm fairly certain. That doesn't make them douches. Just admit you're talking out of your arse as an emotional response to a nice looking animal being put down and we can move on.



killing something just to say you killed it to stroke your ego is a pretty douche move

Posted by thegreatboudini
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Posted on 7/3/18 at 9:50 am to
And now we have a TH03 and Lnchbox thunderdome thread.
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 7/3/18 at 9:51 am to
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Just admit you're talking out of your arse as an emotional response to a nice looking animal being put down and we can move on.


Oh okay sure let me admit to something I’m not doing.

I don’t care about the animal. I was addressing posts saying this chick did a net positive and simply clarified that’s highly likely not her motive for going on this hunt. And like I’ve said 3 times now, there’s nothing wrong with that.

No need to keep trying to put words and arguments in my mouth. Take a chill pill dude.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/3/18 at 9:53 am to
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Oh okay sure let me admit to something I’m not doing.


You know nothing of that dentist other than he killed a lion and you call him a douche. You generalize that these hunts attract douches. DO you know anyone personally that does these hunts?


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I was addressing posts saying this chick did a net positive and simply clarified that’s highly likely not her motive for going on this hunt.


But regardless of her motives, it is a net positive. The motive doesn't change that.

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No need to keep trying to put words and arguments in my mouth. Take a chill pill dude.



Did you generalize that this attracts douches or not? Do you have any basis for that other than a picture of a middle aged white guy that takes care of himself?
Posted by lsufan1971
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Posted on 7/3/18 at 9:54 am to
Wonder how many times Debra and her buddies were twitter outraged over African Americans gunned down in Chicago?
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 7/3/18 at 9:55 am to
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I don't think the word "need" is accurate. I strongly prefer to hunt, fish, and procure the my food for myself

The definition of subsistence hunting is hunting for survival. The fact that you said this
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Yes, I could go buy ground meat and ribeyes instead but I much rather eating backstrap and grinding meat from the animals I kill

Makes you a sport hunter. You don't have to hunt to survive. You choose to put meat on the table by means of hunting. You don't need to though.
Posted by TH03
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 7/3/18 at 9:55 am to
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You know nothing of that dentist other than he killed a lion and you call him a douche. You generalize that these hunts attract douches. DO you know anyone personally that does these hunts?


Who’s being emotional now? These hunts attract people needing ego boosts. Those are douchey reasons.

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But regardless of her motives, it is a net positive. The motive doesn't change that.


It’s almost like I implied this by saying 4 times now that there’s nothing wrong with it.

It’s not hard to comprehend but you apparently just want to be dense and start an argument. And be emotional while calling me emotional.
This post was edited on 7/3/18 at 9:57 am
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 7/3/18 at 9:56 am to
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Actress Debra Messing also did not hold back. "Tess Thompson Talley from Nippa, Kentucky is a disgusting, vile, amoral, heartless, selfish murderer," she raged.

I mean good lord that is taking it too far....
I agree she shouldn't be hunting giraffes though, no way I'd shoot a giraffe
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/3/18 at 9:56 am to
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Who’s being emotional now?


You.
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These hunts attract people needing ego boosts. Those are douchey reasons.


Again, proof?
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It’s almost like I implied this by saying 4 times now that there’s nothing wrong with it.




And yet you still bring up the motives as if they change the outcome.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 7/3/18 at 9:57 am to
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Giraffes are on the endangered list because of hunting and this chick’s response was that the hunt was a conservation effort.



The species (Southern Giraffe) and subspecies (South African Giraffe) of giraffe she shot are the most numerous of the Giraffe species and sub species and are not endangered. There are 2 endangered subspecies of the Northern Giraffe.

If you believe what the woman said, then this was indeed a conservationist hunt.

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Talley also claimed to Fox that the giraffe she killed was too old to breed, and had killed three younger bulls who were able to breed.

"This is called conservation through game management," said Talley.


If this is in fact correct and the hunt was done in conjunction with a conservationist group, this is a win for everyone involved and for conservation. It allows for younger breeding males to have more opportunity to increase the population, the conservation group get additional funds, and local villagers get meat to supplement their diet.

I'm not a hunter in general and I really don't get the whole trophy hunting thing. In particular, I don't get posting it to social media in today's society unless it's in a private group. But every rational conservationist group will admit that using trophy hunters as a means to cull herds has been a windfall for their efforts. And in the case of giraffes, I am pretty certain that habitat destruction has played a much larger role in their decline than hunting and poaching.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108774 posts
Posted on 7/3/18 at 9:59 am to
Killing a giraffe seems like killing a fricking cow in a pasture

What’s the point?

If it needs to be taken out do it systematically
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/3/18 at 9:59 am to
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If it needs to be taken out do it systematically




Pretty sure this is exactly what happened.
Posted by redstick13
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Posted on 7/3/18 at 10:00 am to
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Yeah, because it happens just like that.



Hunting giraffes would be like hunting pet deer the size of a barn. They move slow, there's no need at all to sneak up on them and they're a huge target.
This post was edited on 7/3/18 at 10:02 am
Posted by tigerfoot
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Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 7/3/18 at 10:00 am to
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i mean idiot americans, have been deciding what's mother nature and what's not for years.

the self loathing some of you have is laughable. The Asians and Africans have done to many many species what we did to the buffalo, and some Americans seem to think we are the cause of these problems. Get a grip man, there are many, many people out there raping our lands and waters without one fricking ounce of concern for conservation, Americans are not those people.

Poachers are killing 100 elephants a day, hunters are exporting tusks from three animals a day from pre selected animals.
Posted by MAROON
Houston
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 7/3/18 at 10:01 am to
I would not hunt a giraffe, but not going to get my panties in a wad over someone else doing it.

Pretty sure I've had giraffe jerky or possibly sausage. It wasn't bad. You can buy it on-line by the way.

That giraffe was either going to be taken down by lions, killed by villagers, or die of disease. Lions and villagers would eat it - actually the villagers would make use of every part of that animal. I'm assuming all the meat and bones when to the village, and she got the skin.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/3/18 at 10:01 am to
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. They move slow
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The pace of the giraffe is an amble, though when pursued it can run extremely fast, up to 55 km/h.
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