re: Outdoor kitchen and living space pics/ideas/suggestions

This looks awesome!

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Blaze and Lion are probably the best choices in that category.

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To be honest I don't think there is not that much difference is there between the 3? The guts are probably made at the same place and slapped in a different body with a different label.

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For High End grills I really like DCS.

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Same here. Even having the State background I've found Viking to have problems for that price. But I'd have to end up going that Viking route myself with mine.

Thanks for this pics, that looks great. I'll jot down the Bull line.

Budget right now is 40. No pool, connected to house (which I assume helps with the cost of plumbing, gas, electric, etc.)

We would like a bar area with sink, beer/wine fridge, ice machine, storage, kegerator as a luxury/first option out. A counter area with built-in grill and smoker, counter space and sink. Fans in ceiling, bug spray system potentially with water misting lines also. I am thinking a partial built-up wall across from the house with or without a fire place/pit, TV above with the furniture centered. We have surround sound wiring partially out there.

I'll post a pic of the current state in a minute. We have three appointments set for design consult/estimates, starting tomorrow. Living Improvements based on a recommendation, Texas Custom Patios, and a third with Amazing Backyard Solutions. I am in Humble area if yall have any other recs on builders.

Fred, was that timeline planned or did something cause it to go longer? What areas should not be cost cutting, and what are some we can go a little cheaper?

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One major being warranty. Blaze has the best in the industry.

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good to know.

Honestly, I'm not sure how often you would use the ice maker outside. In theory, it sounds great. In reality, I'm not sure you could really justify it. I assume you have one (or more) inside, so maybe a built in ice chest would make more sense?

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Is that polished concrete or just seal with no stain?

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Just wet concrete.

Ice makers and hoods tend to blow budgets. I if you to choose go with the hood! If you have a storage closet or garage you can buy a 200-300lb ice maker for cheaper than an under the counter unit. But Soccer mom's have to have that "sonic" ice. It's usually their only requests.

Your appliances will add a ton of cost to the overall price. The only thing I installed was a built in grill and cold water sink. The cold water sink doesn't have to have to tie in or have lines run to it. Basically for washing hands and spatulas.

You can get by without an ice machine.

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But Soccer mom's have to have that "sonic" ice.

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My wife doesn't qualify as a soccer mom ... but yes ... you're right here.

It's a luxury. However, we like it. And use it.

I get it. You guys went big with the pool and finishes. I made mine a bit more basic and "rustic"