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Outdoor kitchen and living space pics/ideas/suggestions

Posted on 1/29/16 at 10:29 am
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 10:29 am
We are looking to add on to our back patio, which right now is just a blank canvas of open concrete. We have about 560 sqft of space, with plans to cover part of of it and the rest either have an open style canopy or just leave uncovered.

This is in Houston, so assume similar weather to LA. We want built in grill(s), sink, ice machine as a start. What are some non-conventional things you have or have seen that would be cool to have. Is it worth the cost to have the ability to enclose it (like a wall of sliding glass or something). Heaters and fans? It will be attached to the house.

We have some experts coming out for design consultation and estimates, but I'd like to have some ideas for them. Pics are welcome and encouraged.
Posted by Scooba
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 10:35 am to
I know this may sound dumb, but do they make appliances specifically for outdoor use? Are indoor appliances able to withstand large temp fluctuations and precipitation in that type of environment.

Personally, that would be my first concern.
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 10:41 am to
Well, I've always kept my grills outside, so those are probably good to go as long as you don't cut costs.

I imagine any appliance that could go outside can be found in a material that is suited for outdoors, but that is definitely something I'll inquire about.
Posted by laangler21
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 10:41 am to
They do make outdoor specific appliances, but they will eventually go out like anything else, and for the extra money, IMO you're better off going with the cheaper ones and replace as needed.
ETA: OP check out warming drawers.
This post was edited on 1/29/16 at 10:43 am
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 10:47 am to
Get a TV and some coachues.
Posted by Neil Caffrey
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 10:54 am to
This is what a friend of mine did in Mandeville.

LINK
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 10:56 am to
Ryno just dropped about 100k in his outdoor kitchen. Ask him.
Posted by PoppaD
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 10:57 am to
As far as closing it in, are bugs an issue if you sit our there now. Nothing sucks worse then trying to enjoy your outdoor area you spent a ton of money on, just to get carried away by flies or mosquitos. I screened in my patio because I couldn't eat outside without being swarmed.

Other then that a tv is nice, fans are nice, a fire feature is real nice, and speakers for music are nice. I skipped a built in grill and bought a kamado Joe for the same amount of money and had a spot built to hold it. I prefer a Kamado because you can grill, bake, or smoke in it as opposed to just grilling on a gas grill.
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 11:00 am to
Wow, that's beautiful. What was the cost, if you know and don't mind? It looks much bigger than our space, but we do have some room to go out into the yard.
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 11:06 am to
quote:

Ryno just dropped about 100k in his outdoor kitchen.


Not sure if that number is accurate, but that's slightly out of our budget.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 11:08 am to
Not even half that.
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 11:12 am to
Nice, now we're talking. How much area is covered?
Posted by TheChosenOne
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 11:12 am to
quote:

Not sure if that number is accurate, but that's slightly out of our budget.


It's not. It was $250k. The glass in his firepit was individually mouth blown by the finest glass blowers in Venice.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 11:15 am to
The total area I think was around 16x11 in one part and 20x14 on the other part but all connected.
This post was edited on 1/29/16 at 11:16 am
Posted by Neil Caffrey
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 11:28 am to
Not sure of the cost, but would estimate in the $75K to $100K range
Posted by VetteGuy
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 11:29 am to
quote:

$100K range


Easily.
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 11:30 am to
You remember how long it took to complete?
Posted by Artie Rome
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 11:30 am to
Pergola baw.
Posted by MyNameIsInigoMontoya
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 11:42 am to
We are actually planning ours out right now. Think about what you need. We are creating an "L" shaped bar. One side is the hot zone (with the gas grill and BGE). The other side is the cool zone, which will have a fridge and possible kegerator. That side will also have an elevated counter for barstool seating. We aren't doing a sink because I don't think I'd use it enough to warrant the cost to run water and drain lines out there.

2 seating areas and a TV (already have speakers wired out there) will round it out. There are TVs designed for outdoors, but they are MUCH more expensive and not worth the cost from what I have read. Just buy a cheapish TV and replace when it dies. In our area, it's more of the condensation from humidity that hurts the TVs than the heat.
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 11:45 am to
What's the size of the space? Budget (again only if you don't mind) and location?

What's been the biggest cost, aside from the roof and support? I assume flooring can get up there depending on type.

What's your estimated time to complete?
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