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re: Our president says it’s time to get back to work

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Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
125089 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 10:53 am to
right

One Shell Square is certainly safer than Peche. Got it.

And I don’t know where you’re going with the market straw man, most people are are citing unemployment and businesses closing up as bigger problems
Posted by Desert King
Member since Oct 2018
1936 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 10:53 am to
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frick off, meathead


Get my fries ready you worthless count.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
78047 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 10:54 am to
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Also, thread wouldn't be complete without Scruffy and Salmon bemoaning their loss in their 401k's.


I have lost nothing on the stock market.

Apparently, I’m the only one who doesn’t want to see massive unemployment.

That is as destructive, if not more destructive, than this virus.
This post was edited on 3/24/20 at 10:55 am
Posted by Unknown_Poster
Member since Jun 2013
5758 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 10:54 am to
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You think our economy can survive a 6 week shutdown.

Not saying I agree with a full six-week shutdown, but economy has survived much worse in the long history of this country.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
41915 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 10:54 am to
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Market has always been a sucker's bet.


Well that's just not true lol
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
125089 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 10:54 am to
Weird how the fervent supporters of the party of the little guy seem to be fixated on the market and not the millions of unemployed

It’s almost as if they don’t really give a shite
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
78047 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 10:55 am to
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Not saying I agree with a full six-week shutdown, but economy has survived much worse in the long history of this country.
Give me an example of any time in history where we voluntarily shut our country down for any length of time like this.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
125089 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 10:55 am to
We haven’t had anything close to a six week shutdown in the modern economy

Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 10:56 am to
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Imagine being so short sighted and singular in your worldview that you are willing to further damage the economy, increase unemployment and homelessness, and affect the lives of millions because you hold certain political views.




This thing is going to destroy the economy either way. So we either take precautions to save lives, or we throw caution to the wind, send everyone back to work and risk the virus spreading much, much faster, putting an even bigger strain on our healthcare system. It sucks, and a LOT of people are going to lose their jobs either through social distancing and quarantining, or through sickness and death.
Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
27900 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 10:56 am to
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Cities with issues will continue if that's what the evidence shows. Why should one city be shut down because another city has issues?

Because that’s how infectious disease spreads.

It didn’t just magically appear in the US. Someone from an infected area brought it here.

So, if someone from New Orleans, which would maybe remain shut down, has the virus but is asymptomatic, and decides to move to Lafayette in order to work because they’re not shut down, the disease just spread to Lafayette and that one person could have just fricked a whole city depending upon who he interacts with.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
125089 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 10:56 am to
No one is saying go back to work tomorrow nor do we need to fill stadiums for MLB or concerts
Posted by Privateer 2007
Member since Jan 2020
7951 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 10:57 am to
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Democrat head coach of LSU football


Don't go smearing the good name of a great man like Coach O.

Calling somebody a Democrat is serious business.
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
173794 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 10:58 am to
So grateful for our fearless democrat leader Ed O
Posted by Unknown_Poster
Member since Jun 2013
5758 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 10:58 am to
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And I don’t know where you’re going with the market straw man, most people are are citing unemployment and businesses closing up as bigger problems

That's what they are citing. But I'd bet most people on this forum are against wage/benefit increases for workers. You're not going to convince me Johnny random-OT-poster actually cares about a waitress in New Orleans or Hackensack. At least, not more so than they care about their own bottom line.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
41915 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 10:58 am to
I hope Coach O is a democrat. Good for business.
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
173794 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 10:58 am to
He’s a democrat breh
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
125089 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 10:58 am to
Sweet

No one cares about convincing you

It’s clear you’ve made up your mind
Posted by Rep520
Member since Mar 2018
10476 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 11:00 am to
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we have already suffered early losses (EL) due to this shutdown 

we will suffer long term losses (LTL) if we quarantine for 4-9 months (which is a very optimistic timeframe, mind you) 

if we return to normalcy, we'll suffer disease related losses (DRL) that will be substantial 

the disease related losses we suffer under quarantine will be constant in either scenario so it doesn't need to be accounted for 

if LTL > DRL + EL, then we kind of have to open up society or we're making the wrong choice


This sounds great until people realize DRL is partially measured in human life.

We take lots of steps that are economically inefficient to preserve human life in this country, and for a reason.
Posted by Unknown_Poster
Member since Jun 2013
5758 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 11:00 am to
That's not a denial on your part.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
78047 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 11:01 am to
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This thing is going to destroy the economy either way. So we either take precautions to save lives, or we throw caution to the wind, send everyone back to work and risk the virus spreading much, much faster, putting an even bigger strain on our healthcare system. It sucks, and a LOT of people are going to lose their jobs either through social distancing and quarantining, or through sickness and death.
The big issue that so many of you are completely neglecting is that massive increases in unemployment also increase in deaths.

It causes a statistically significant increase in medical-related death, suicides, crime, among other factors.

This is a rock and a hard place argument, but I would rather give 99% of Americans a fighting chance while doing the most that we can to help the 1% who will likely be affected by the virus.

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