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re: Our president says it’s time to get back to work

Posted on 3/24/20 at 11:19 am to
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 3/24/20 at 11:19 am to
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that's a talking point


No, it isn't
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 3/24/20 at 11:21 am to
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i actually don't.


Well, i think that position is extremely dangerous both for the public health and economic sides of this situation, but hey your opinion is your opinion.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 3/24/20 at 11:22 am to
a loan program isn't a "slush fund"

and the GOP added more so the talking point is dead anyway

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Pelosi said that a number of the Democrats' requests have been added to the bill, such as provisions that would require both a congressional panel and an inspector general to provide oversight over a $500 billion loan program to corporations.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/24/20 at 11:24 am to
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i think that position is extremely dangerous both for the public health and economic sides of this situation

our politicians made their choices

if they want to fund this by cutting military and entitlement spending, then i'd be fine with it
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 3/24/20 at 11:26 am to
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a loan program isn't a "slush fund"


lol at those "loans" ever being paid back.

and if it's on the up and up why did the GOP want to keep who got the money a secret until after the election?
Posted by Rep520
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Posted on 3/24/20 at 11:27 am to
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you don't think LTL involves human life/loss of life?


I think you're overrating how people will weigh it.

It's easy to figure out when someone dies from coronavirus and attribute that death to inaction.

Attributing deaths to quarantine is significantly more difficult for the general public to do. You can count economic impact, but causes of death won't be quarantine.

Like it or not, that plays a role.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/24/20 at 11:29 am to
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and if it's on the up and up why did the GOP want to keep who got the money a secret until after the election?

it's probably related to why solvent banks were forced to take TARP loans. you will destroy a company if it's known how close they came to implosion. you're lighting that money on fire by loaning it
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/24/20 at 11:30 am to
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I think you're overrating how people will weigh it.

It's easy to figure out when someone dies from coronavirus and attribute that death to inaction.

Attributing deaths to quarantine is significantly more difficult for the general public to do. You can count economic impact, but causes of death won't be quarantine.

Like it or not, that plays a role.

i'm not a politician using "optics" for votes, friend
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 3/24/20 at 11:30 am to
Posted by Rep520
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Posted on 3/24/20 at 11:31 am to
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i'm not a politician using "optics" for votes, friend


Yeah, but the people who make decisions are.

That's why I said what I did about your idea. I understand it, but I don't think it holds up in the real world, where perception matters a lot.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/24/20 at 11:32 am to
i mean it's now irrelevant b/c there is DEM-approved oversight

but that's why. people will rush to dump stock of companies they know are about to crash.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 3/24/20 at 11:35 am to
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i mean it's now irrelevant b/c there is DEM-approved oversight


why not include that from the get go?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/24/20 at 11:39 am to
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why not include that from the get go?

that's kind of getting into the minutia a bit, especially since the DEMs offered a reasonable argument and the GOP bent the knee

now if you want to talk crazy, we can talk about the DEM plan in Congress that they're trying to push
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