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Posted on 8/23/16 at 10:10 am to
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
61311 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 10:10 am to
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yep, you guessed it, climate change. Oh and coastal erosion.

Dude is talking out of his arse. Whether climate is real or not, it likely didn't cause a low pressure system to stall out over LA for 3 days. He really hurts their message saying every weather event is caused by climate change.

I really don't like that smug a-hole.


Anybody who politicizes this flood by blaming "climate change" can promptly eat my a-hole
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 10:10 am to
Here's the clip

They were talking about coastal erosion and the sinking of new orleans

LINK

It's been a pretty awful El Niño cycle
This post was edited on 8/23/16 at 10:14 am
Posted by Muice
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
1268 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 10:10 am to
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If it's a 500 year flood then it's to be expected every 500 years




That's not what a 500 year event means
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
29643 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 10:11 am to
Agreed, so it's a given Bill Nye is the worst perpetrator of all since he's the one that started all this mess with his lack of expertise on the subject. Shame on him for perpetuating ignorance. Kudos to OP.
Posted by TigerGman
Center of the Universe
Member since Sep 2006
14079 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 10:12 am to
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That's not what a 500 year event means

Explain please.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
38664 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 10:13 am to
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What does Beakman have to say?


Thank you.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
68603 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 10:15 am to
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"Science guy"...pfft whatever.

FIFY
Posted by LSUZombie
A Cemetery Near You
Member since Apr 2008
29739 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 10:15 am to
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Dude is talking out of his arse


I would imagine Bill Nye's reasons for why this could be contributed to climate change are better than your reasons as to why climate change had no impact.
Posted by Tigeralum2008
Yankees Fan
Member since Apr 2012
17753 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 10:18 am to
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That's not what a 500 year event means

Explain please.


LA Times explanation

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Technically the measurement is a probability. A 100-year flood means that there is one chance in 100 of a flood occurring in each year. A 500-year flood means there is 0.2% chance of the flooding or rain event occurring each year and a 1,000-year event has a 0.1% chance of happening in any year.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29134 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 10:19 am to
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quote:

If it's a 500 year flood then it's to be expected every 500 years




That's not what a 500 year event means

It kind of does. For any given 500 year span of time, you would expect one 500-year flood event.
Posted by Muice
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
1268 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 10:20 am to
Go roll a dice 6 times, by the 6th roll you've rolled each number once right?!


ETA: I'm an idiot there's only 6 faces
This post was edited on 8/23/16 at 10:25 am
Posted by Muice
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
1268 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 10:21 am to
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For any given 500 year span of time, you would expect no more than one 500-year flood event.
Posted by TigerGman
Center of the Universe
Member since Sep 2006
14079 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 10:23 am to
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Go roll a dice 8 times, by the 8th roll you've rolled each number once right?!



No but if I roll it 8000 times I bet each comes up pretty much 1/6th of the time.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29134 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 10:23 am to
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For any given 500 year span of time, you would expect no more than one 500-year flood event.


Now THAT is totally incorrect.
Posted by eScott
Member since Oct 2008
11376 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 10:24 am to
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He's more educated than you in ME


fify
Posted by Canard Noir
Houston
Member since Apr 2014
1397 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 10:26 am to
Well he's right that global warming plays a big hand in freak weather events like this one. I don't understand why people get so pissed about something that is undeniably happening. The only thing up for debate is the cause and if we can do anything about it. I don't know if the cause is natural or not but calling people kooks for acknowledging a definite warming trend is dumber than thinking any change is possible without the Chinese getting onboard and that just isn't going to happen.

If he said coastal erosion played any part of this, then, well that's retarded.
This post was edited on 8/23/16 at 10:27 am
Posted by Muice
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
1268 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 10:27 am to
Yeah its been a while since i took any hydrology classes you were right.

Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 10:29 am to
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Bill Nye earned a degree in Mechanical Engineering from Cornell University. That's an Ivy League institution Nye holds several United States patents,[41] including one for ballet pointe shoes[35][42] and another for an educational magnifying glass created by filling a clear plastic bag with water.[43][44] From 2001 to 2006, Nye served as Frank H. T. Rhodes Class of '56 University Professor at Cornell University.[11][45] Nye supported the 2006 reclassification of Pluto from planet to dwarf planet by the International Astronomical Union.[46]


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He's smarter than you


But he is still not a scientist, and nothing in his CV would make him any more of a authority on climate change than the person that reads the weather report on your local AM station.
Posted by Navajo61490
Baton rouge
Member since Dec 2011
6888 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 10:29 am to
I said this in another thread. I do subsurface investigations throughout Louisiana and have seen plenty of evidence of prior flooding events from hundreds and thousands of years ago. Rivers flood, it is what it is. I'm not saying that climate change didn't have a minute effect on it, but clearly he's using this to push his own liberal agenda


ETA: Degree in Geology and currently work as a Geologist
This post was edited on 8/23/16 at 10:30 am
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Member since Apr 2012
17753 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 10:41 am to
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When averaged together, changing climate extremes can be traced to rising global temperatures, increases in the amount of water vapor in the atmosphere, and changes in atmospheric circulation. Warmer temperatures directly influence heat waves and increase the moisture available in the atmosphere to supply extreme precipitation events.

Expanding sub-tropical deserts swelling out from the equator are creating larger areas of sinking, dry air, thus expanding the area of land that is subject to drought. The expansion of this sub-tropical circulation pattern also is increasing heat transport from the tropics to the Arctic and pushing mid-latitude storm tracks, along with their rainfall, to higher latitudes.


C2ES publication discussing climate change and its effect on precipitation events
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