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Posted on 3/10/15 at 12:43 pm to terd ferguson
I love it..
Posters are more upset that these fine young men (i'm sure they're "good kids") are facing discipline than they are about what they were chanting.
We got lots of closet David Duke voters on here.
Posters are more upset that these fine young men (i'm sure they're "good kids") are facing discipline than they are about what they were chanting.
We got lots of closet David Duke voters on here.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 12:43 pm to SlowFlowPro
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but i'm sure an opportunity to respond is part of it at the minimum.
What kind of response could they make to justify this? "Um, this song was drilled into me as a pledge by our pledge master so I was just carrying on a tradition." Yea, that ain't going to fly. In fact it would only make it worse.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 12:43 pm to LSU_Saints_Hornets
You are one angry black dude.
I'll give you an A for effort though.
I'll give you an A for effort though.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 12:43 pm to SlowFlowPro
I'm sure there was some sort of campus tribunal... which is where these guys could've argued their cases.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 12:43 pm to TigersforEver
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Wow; they're douchebags no doubt, but come on, expulsion? It was a chant, not an assault or rape.
In which case they would be expelled and face jail. See the difference?
Posted on 3/10/15 at 12:43 pm to GetCocky11
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What constitutional rights were violated?
They were expelled for saying something off campus...how does that work again?
Posted on 3/10/15 at 12:44 pm to TheBoo
While what they said was by all means horrible and retarded, I don't think they should have been expelled for it. If colleges are truly supposed to be sacred grounds for free speech, then even this type of speech should be tolerated. Only type of speech that shouldn't be is one that is truly dangerous (ie planning violent events), but that's about it.
But seriously, how fricking stupid are those guys? First off the chant was retarded, but to do it on a bus to formal? They do realize that half of the people on board aren't active members, and all of them have camera phones.
But seriously, how fricking stupid are those guys? First off the chant was retarded, but to do it on a bus to formal? They do realize that half of the people on board aren't active members, and all of them have camera phones.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 12:44 pm to SlowFlowPro
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the question isn't as much one of "free speech" as much as it is "due process".
Indeed. I can't imagine how this would comply with whatever their student due process rights are...even if it they were accused of prohibited behavior that was violent, would you not just suspend them first? it would be interesting to see the policy.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 12:44 pm to Pax Regis
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Or their daddies can hook them up with jobs where they work which was likely going to happen anyway. Also - moot - look it up homie.
I see this kind of talk all the time and wonder why so many people think every college fraternity member falls into this category? These kids obviously are idiots and this behavior isn't excusable in the least, but I have seen so many people assume "daddy will set them up" no matter what happens to them.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 12:44 pm to CaptainsWafer
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Posted by CaptainsWafer Is it the university or the government expelling these kids?
I'm not sure there is much difference these days but that's another discussion.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 12:45 pm to JoBoo
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We got lots of closet David Duke voters on here.
And even more open supporters of white guilt. It's a double standard... if a bunch of black kids are recorded talking about killing whites this is a non-issue.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 12:45 pm to upgrayedd
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What rules did they break?
This one...
Student Rights and Responsibilities Code
2014-2015
VI. Student Responsibilities
Prohibited Conduct
These definitions include, but are not limited to, the following:
1. Abusive conduct: Unwelcome conduct that is sufficiently severe and pervasive that it alters the
conditions of education or employment and creates an environment that a reasonable person would
find intimidating, harassing or humiliating. These circumstances could include the frequency of the
conduct, its severity, and whether it is threatening or humiliating. This includes physically abusing
a person or holding a person against his or her will. Simple teasing, offhanded comments and
isolated incidents (unless extremely serious) will not amount to abusive conduct.
LINK
Posted on 3/10/15 at 12:45 pm to SlowFlowPro
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these rules have to apply to everyone, or else you have no rules. it sucks b/c what they said was so shitty, but you have to have an entire system of behavioral regulation, which includes adequate due process for those accused. the rules have to be clear to everyone, or else it is impossible to know if you are breaking a rule
SFP is a chant-fan. Just own it, brah.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 12:45 pm to Tiger Ryno
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Disturbing trend...the liberals have gone full assault on free speech.
Oh Goddamn... So now the chancellor of OU is a tree hugging liberal?
Posted on 3/10/15 at 12:45 pm to GaryMyMan
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They also went on to talk about "hang[ing] them in a tree."
those white boys dont have the balls to hang anything from a tree
Posted on 3/10/15 at 12:46 pm to JoBoo
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We got lots of closet David Duke voters on here.
Honestly, that's the saddest part of the story for me. Most every guy I know posts here. What if my boss is secretly TIGERLEE?
Posted on 3/10/15 at 12:46 pm to Pax Regis
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What kind of response could they make to justify this? "
racist language is protected and can't violate any alleged conduct code, for one
i wouldn't want to be the lawyer making that argument, but it has merit. john adams defended worse offenders and he's an icon
Posted on 3/10/15 at 12:46 pm to GREENHEAD22
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there lives are pretty much over with especially now for being expelled, no other school will take them
Lol
You must be 18. They can just go on down the road and get into OSU.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 12:46 pm to JoBoo
No, it's about SJWs running roughshod over the world now. The internet and social media should be exposing us to all kinds of extremes and learning how to deal with them, but it's really just making the world politically correct and reactionary for the twitter mobs. It's very weird. I don't feel bad for these morons, but I think kicking them out of school is extreme.
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