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re: OT Workout Crew - Would you leave your current gym/health club...
Posted on 4/28/16 at 9:41 am to dnm3305
Posted on 4/28/16 at 9:41 am to dnm3305
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What are some other ideas you would like to see that would you draw you towards this type of place?
I would be interested, but honestly it would have to be all of the following to get me to switch, based on my current gym:
(a) open 24 hours a day
(b) within 3 miles of my house
(c) $20 or less per month
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Posted on 4/28/16 at 9:42 am to CORIMA
I can tell you from personal experience It will cost you more than 25k to open what you want. I love the idea, but you better have tons of cash bc the % of people looking for that style of training is very low, and most who are doing that style are the ones who don't want to pay. one thing I would absolutely NOT want to do right now is compete with the group training places. You have to understand that most of the population doesn't see a difference between what you want and the crossfit or yogalaties or spin or what ever. Especially in Louisiana. 5-10 years from now maybe. 2016 we are just not there yet.
Posted on 4/28/16 at 9:45 am to gsvar2004
I can get the southdowns crowd to switch for a fee. Get UPS Joey and they all follow.
Posted on 4/28/16 at 9:47 am to dnm3305
Hardcore strength training is dumb unless you're training to compete in a strength competition.
Your muscles don't care how much weight you're lifting. More weight just means more chance for injury.
Your muscles don't care how much weight you're lifting. More weight just means more chance for injury.
Posted on 4/28/16 at 9:48 am to AbitaFan08
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OT Workout Crew - Would you leave your current gym/health club... by AbitaFan08
Serious question: have you ever worked in a gym, or in the fitness community at all? Or are you just thinking "hey, it would be cool to own a gym, how hard could it be"?
I didn't see anything about that in the OP.
Great question to the op.
I was in the fitness industry for years, and the way to make money is have something that appeals to the people that aren't serious about working out and make it cheap enough to be attractive. Why? Because they will join because it's cheap, but because they aren't serious enough about working out, they won't be using the gym enough to clutter and crowd it. That's free money right there.
The other option is go the high end route aiming at the wealthy client; either via personal training as some have mentioned or an ultra high end Equinox style gym. The Equinox model isn't happening as a startup.
It's admirable what you are looking to start, but unless you are supplementing the monthly dues with a lot of personal training revenue I don't see how it will work.
Posted on 4/28/16 at 9:52 am to dnm3305
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Guys/Gals who want to do a little conditioning, cut/prep for a meet, etc.
If you don't know there's a difference between bodybuilding and strength training, then you really shouldn't be opening a gym.
Posted on 4/28/16 at 9:54 am to dnm3305
Your gym gives my muscles a boner. I'm an hour away from laffy but damn. I say go for it. 
Posted on 4/28/16 at 9:58 am to hawgfaninc
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If you don't know there's a difference between bodybuilding and strength training, then you really shouldn't be opening a gym
What are you talking about? Did I say cut/prep for a show? No, I didn't. Do you know the difference between a bodybuiding show and a powerlifting meet? Obviously I meant people that strength train for athletics that also want to work on plyo/explosive movements and do some running or for someone trying to cut weight to make weight for a meet.
Posted on 4/28/16 at 10:00 am to hawgfaninc
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Hardcore strength training is dumb unless you're training to compete in a strength competition.
I can see that, but then there are people that say sitting playing the guitar for hours is dumb as well, but I still do that too.
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Your muscles don't care how much weight you're lifting. More weight just means more chance for injury.
Not many things build character and mental toughness like squeezing out another rep in squats. Strength training is more mental than physical.
Posted on 4/28/16 at 10:09 am to dnm3305
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Did I say cut/prep for a show? No
misunderstood. it sounded like you were
Posted on 4/28/16 at 10:16 am to dnm3305
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Not many things build character and mental toughness like squeezing out another rep in squats. Strength training is more mental than physical.
man you do you. If you want to strength train have at it.
My two torn muscles made me swear off the heavy weight needed to strength train. also, almost everything in the gym in more mental than physical. the focus needed to isolate a muscle for bodybuilding is the mental aspect I use the most.
Posted on 4/28/16 at 10:18 am to dnm3305
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Reasonable price ($50/month?) to compete with other more traditional health clubs
You aren't trying to compete with health clubs on service why compete on price. You should charge at least 100 or more and sell it as exclusivity.
Posted on 4/28/16 at 10:27 am to barry
If there was something like Jakabol down here in south LA, I'd join.
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Posted on 4/28/16 at 10:27 am to Tiger Ryno
as much as all of us old school lifters would love that its just not a good business for you.
Posted on 4/28/16 at 10:28 am to dnm3305
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What are some negatives aside from limited clientele base that Im not considering?
Think that's the primary one, the people you are tailoring your gym to prefer a smaller low key gym with less members to work out in. By design you are limiting your consumer base to a small niche.
Posted on 4/28/16 at 10:33 am to dnm3305
If it has all the rogue equipment, I would certainly do it. Love doing power cleans/ squat cleans. Snatch can suck a dick though
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Posted on 4/28/16 at 10:51 am to dnm3305
I would but I have pretty much all of that plus some in my garage gym.
Just going to warn you though, if you go this route you are going to fail. Only small powerlifting gyms and crossfit gyms can get away with this. YOU WILL FAIL.
but if you do decide to do it right you need to add some top of the line machines too like the rodgers pendulum line, some hammer strength, some sorinex, legend, powerlift, atlantis among others.
I highly suggest you go over to the bodybuilding.com workout equipment board and research. The Cost no object best of the best will tell you what equipment is the best and what is right up there with the best.
The OSUdiamond builds a gym is also a good thread to read.
I am being 100% serious though when I say you will fail with this type of gym in Lafayette. Reds has everything a hardcore guy could want plus everything the family could want. You need to go on BB.com and ask for advice before you frick this up.
Just going to warn you though, if you go this route you are going to fail. Only small powerlifting gyms and crossfit gyms can get away with this. YOU WILL FAIL.
but if you do decide to do it right you need to add some top of the line machines too like the rodgers pendulum line, some hammer strength, some sorinex, legend, powerlift, atlantis among others.
I highly suggest you go over to the bodybuilding.com workout equipment board and research. The Cost no object best of the best will tell you what equipment is the best and what is right up there with the best.
The OSUdiamond builds a gym is also a good thread to read.
I am being 100% serious though when I say you will fail with this type of gym in Lafayette. Reds has everything a hardcore guy could want plus everything the family could want. You need to go on BB.com and ask for advice before you frick this up.
Posted on 4/28/16 at 11:04 am to lsu777
I would switch, but I don't think your model is correct.
This doesn't need to be something where you're trying to compete at the same price point as other gyms. You're providing a service to hardcore lifters so market it and charge accordingly. It's niche, charge accordingly.
I think you take something like this and incorporate it into your gym similar to what Crossfit does, but for lifting.
If I did this I would have a personal trainer or two on staff who oversaw strength programs. They're not there 24/7 throughout the day, but each client meets with them every couple of months (assuming they want this service) to get feedback and tweak their program accordingly. The trainers could also have technique or educational classes once a week where they break down people's squat or snatch form. Then you start speaking with companies about hosting their weighlifting and strong man competitions or whatever. Setup your own competitions for your members.
Basically what I would think you're trying to do is take a college football's S&C program and attempt to replicate it for the average baw. I would have no clue if the economics work for something like that, but if you gave me something similar to what I described above and it wasn't over $100 I'd switch.
This doesn't need to be something where you're trying to compete at the same price point as other gyms. You're providing a service to hardcore lifters so market it and charge accordingly. It's niche, charge accordingly.
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You want to make money with a smaller strength gym you better be an awesome personal trainer because that is where you will have to make your money.
I think you take something like this and incorporate it into your gym similar to what Crossfit does, but for lifting.
If I did this I would have a personal trainer or two on staff who oversaw strength programs. They're not there 24/7 throughout the day, but each client meets with them every couple of months (assuming they want this service) to get feedback and tweak their program accordingly. The trainers could also have technique or educational classes once a week where they break down people's squat or snatch form. Then you start speaking with companies about hosting their weighlifting and strong man competitions or whatever. Setup your own competitions for your members.
Basically what I would think you're trying to do is take a college football's S&C program and attempt to replicate it for the average baw. I would have no clue if the economics work for something like that, but if you gave me something similar to what I described above and it wasn't over $100 I'd switch.
Posted on 4/28/16 at 11:08 am to dnm3305
You want to do something that would beat other gyms? Offer affordable personal training. The insane amounts of money that these gyms charge to train you are ridiculous and say you gave two weeks free training, you'd steal people from other gyms.
Posted on 4/28/16 at 11:43 am to dnm3305
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What are some negatives aside from limited clientele base that Im not considering?
Competition - your idea isn't as different as u think. My place is almost this to a tee, minus some of the silly crossfit shite like a GHD
I don't know what kinda bank roll you working with, but you got about 50-75k in equipment written right there. You're forgetting A LOT of other costs, not to mention startup capital
u just gonna be a gym for serious lifters? For $50/month? Lol, you're not gonna be a gym owner, you'll be a philanthropist.
Knowledge- what qualifies u? Extra cash & a love to pick heavy shite up?
I've been running my own private facility for 6 years. My own business for 14. In the industry for 18. People come to my place fir me, not my equipment. If you aren't an expert in the field, you better offer something completely unique.
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