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OT psychologists....verbal vs performance IQ?
Posted on 10/31/16 at 10:34 am
Posted on 10/31/16 at 10:34 am
I took one of those WAIS IV tests a week ago, and spoke to the woman this morning about my results this morning. I was trying to pinpoint problems with my memory to see if there would be a way for me to circumvent obvious deficiencies. Turns out, I have a verbal IQ of 99 and a performance IQ of 141. When I was 20 and took the test, verbal was much closer to my present-day performance. I haven't gotten the specific results of all of the tests yet, but there are only a few conversations about large variances online. Other than that, it is just a bunch of nothing. I am going to set up a meeting with a neuropsycholigist in the next few weeks to discuss the results.
Mommy forums are one place they talk about this stuff, and they say I am autistic because of the large difference between the two. WebMD says I have a broken leg and nipple cancer. Pretty sure none of those apply. I consider myself pretty good with words, but the definition portion of the test was very tough. I know I did not do well at that. I took a lot of other tests that day. Waiting to get the numbers back in hopes of figuring out a way to get around my memory problems.
My question is about the large spread between verbal and non-verbal IQ. Could that just be the way the test was administered? Is the WAIS IV designed, as a whole, where the specific tests would make up for one bad showing? Does ADHD have a big effect on scores? What are the negatives associated with this test?
Mommy forums are one place they talk about this stuff, and they say I am autistic because of the large difference between the two. WebMD says I have a broken leg and nipple cancer. Pretty sure none of those apply. I consider myself pretty good with words, but the definition portion of the test was very tough. I know I did not do well at that. I took a lot of other tests that day. Waiting to get the numbers back in hopes of figuring out a way to get around my memory problems.
My question is about the large spread between verbal and non-verbal IQ. Could that just be the way the test was administered? Is the WAIS IV designed, as a whole, where the specific tests would make up for one bad showing? Does ADHD have a big effect on scores? What are the negatives associated with this test?
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Posted on 10/31/16 at 10:35 am to Hammertime
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Posted on 10/31/16 at 10:42 am to Hammertime
u smart
Posted on 10/31/16 at 10:43 am to Hammertime
so you aren't a dumbass but sound like one?
Posted on 10/31/16 at 10:47 am to Hammertime
WAIS-4 provides, through its many sub-tests, a way to determine the student's true results. While this test does provide a great deal of information, a cognitive ability test should be given in accompaniment with physician reports and parent observations to provide the best idea of where the child is on the IQ scale. The weakness with this assessment is that through its many sub-tests, it does not give proper results as to the correct measure of IQ for many students especially ADHD students. While this assessment is very thorough, its results are oftentimes skewed.
This post was edited on 10/31/16 at 10:52 am
Posted on 10/31/16 at 10:49 am to Hammertime
After the test did her jealous ex-boyfriend barge in the room making a scene and you knocked him out with one blow and the the woman got on her knees begging for you to make love to her?
Posted on 10/31/16 at 10:55 am to CoachChappy
From what I'm thinking, reading comprehension is a big factor in the verbal IQ score. I am definitely weak in that department when timed. 
quote:I should've been a welder
so you aren't a dumbass but sound like one?
Posted on 10/31/16 at 10:58 am to Hammertime
quote:It's theoretically the other way around; the verbal score is likely what impacts the reading comprehension.
From what I'm thinking, reading comprehension is a big factor in the verbal IQ score. I am definitely weak in that department when timed.
quote:Or a STEM field would probably naturally fit your profile.
I should've been a welder
Posted on 10/31/16 at 11:01 am to CoachChappy
quote:But it can also parse out those processing deficits (working memory; processing speed) that are usually impacted by ADHD. So while the full scale score may be an underestimate, the General Ability Index shouldn't be as detrimentally impacted.
The weakness with this assessment is that through its many sub-tests, it does not give proper results as to the correct measure of IQ for many students especially ADHD students.
Posted on 10/31/16 at 11:12 am to buckeye_vol
quote:That's what I did/am pursuing. The concepts are extremely easy to understand if I see them. Hearing them or reading them doesn't work at all
Or a STEM field would probably naturally fit your profile.
quote:I'm the dumb one here, but how can a score effect the test? You need to take the test to get the score
It's theoretically the other way around; the verbal score is likely what impacts the reading comprehension.
Posted on 10/31/16 at 11:16 am to Hammertime
quote:I'm saying that abilities (intelligence) are what theoretically predict and explain skills (academics). In this case your verbal comprehension ability is probably impacting your reading comprehension, not vice versa.
I'm the dumb one here, but how can a score effect the test? You need to take the test to get the score
Posted on 10/31/16 at 11:43 am to Hammertime
they should have used the Wechsler Memory Scale also...
Posted on 10/31/16 at 11:59 am to Hammertime
Congrats on the late diagnosis of retardation.
Posted on 10/31/16 at 12:16 pm to Hammertime
Aren't you the guy with sleeping problems and other things?
Posted on 10/31/16 at 1:23 pm to MyNameIsNobody
quote:I took about 10-15 other tests with random acronyms. That was just the first one she told me, and the only one I can remember
they should have used the Wechsler Memory Scale also...
quote:No problems, I just don't sleep much (3-5 hours per night). That's not on purpose or because of an alarm clock. It has always been that way. I think I have this genetic thing that allows me to get by on that little sleep.
Aren't you the guy with sleeping problems and other things?
I took it to see if a certain medicine I'm on effected my cognitive ability, and in what ways. Results show that it quite possibly has, but I don't have the option of changing it. That's why I need to break down these tests
Posted on 10/31/16 at 2:19 pm to Hammertime
there's no such thing as a performance IQ from a WAIS. there's verbal comprehension, perceptual reasoning, working memory, and processing speed. she may have gotten your performance IQ from some other measure but not from the WAIS.
also you should probably be getting at least 5 hours of sleep a night. if you're trying to go to bed and not able to, you should start seeing a psychologist who specializes in sleep. if you're feeling energized enough and getting by on that 3-5 hours, then you're a genetic miracle.
also you should probably be getting at least 5 hours of sleep a night. if you're trying to go to bed and not able to, you should start seeing a psychologist who specializes in sleep. if you're feeling energized enough and getting by on that 3-5 hours, then you're a genetic miracle.
Posted on 10/31/16 at 2:25 pm to quail man
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if you're feeling energized enough and getting by on that 3-5 hours, then you're a genetic miracle
As I informed the poli board last week, not really a miracle. Certainly rare, but not that rare
Posted on 10/31/16 at 2:37 pm to Hammertime
Those gaps are also common in High IQ individuals. The best thing is to go over the results with the testing party.
Posted on 10/31/16 at 3:31 pm to quail man
Just checked. It was WAIS 3 that gives those results. I got verbal, performance, and full scale. They changed it for 4.
Also, I cannot sleep longer than 5 hours unless I force it, and then I feel like complete horse shite. Me sleeping 6 hours is like you sleeping 2 hours. I have never slept longer than 5 for a sustained amount of time, and was fine of 2-3 from when I was around 21-25
Also, I cannot sleep longer than 5 hours unless I force it, and then I feel like complete horse shite. Me sleeping 6 hours is like you sleeping 2 hours. I have never slept longer than 5 for a sustained amount of time, and was fine of 2-3 from when I was around 21-25
Posted on 11/1/16 at 9:44 am to Hammertime
Simply put, you are much much more intelligent than you come across when talking to others. With that being said, you do come across to others as someone at least with average intelligence,
This post was edited on 11/1/16 at 9:45 am
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