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re: OT mechanics: changing ac compressor

Posted on 4/13/18 at 8:04 pm to
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30009 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 8:04 pm to
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Go to an auto parts store and be pleasantly surprised about the price of a new compressor with lifetime warranty.


Compressor should run about $200 in town, but that isn't all you have to replace to keep the warranty...

Not sure what year it is but most of the Civics I have seen have the Ac compressor under the alternator on the drivers' side. Once you drop the belt and remove the alternator Murphy says one of the bottom bolts will be galvanically welded in place and your gonna have a very bad day.
Posted by SECdragonmaster
Order of the Dragons
Member since Dec 2013
17312 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 8:15 pm to
Don’t do it yourself.

I grew up with a mechanic for a father and working on lots of 60’s and 70’s cars. I can do quite a bit with a vehicle.

But newer model vehicles are an entirely different deal. Mostly due to the limited space underneath the hood. I just bled the clutch on my 2008 Honda Accord. It was a PITA.

A job that took only one wrench ended up taking me about 90 mins. Because I had to remove the plastic panel underneath and stretch and contort my arm just to get to the bleed valve.

I would never try to replace an entire AC system with the limited space.
Posted by Hamma1122
Member since Sep 2016
21795 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 8:16 pm to
Pay the 1500
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18857 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 8:17 pm to
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1500 is ridiculous for most.


I had this same problem on my '07 Civic. All three quotes I got were between $1500 and $2000. To access the compressor and compressor clutch, you have to completely remove the front right wheel well. The parts here are cheap. It's the labor cost because of how difficult it is to access everything.
Posted by Christopher Columbo
Member since Jun 2015
2865 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 8:57 pm to
I bought a kit on ebay from compresoresmiamiinc for my Accord. It included the compressor (remanufactured), drier, expansion valve, a bottle of oil and o-rings for $120. My car guy put in on for $300. Works just fine. If you're bringing the parts to someone like this, you may want to include some refrigerant and a new belt if it needs it.
This post was edited on 4/13/18 at 8:59 pm
Posted by Bullfrog
Running Through the Wet Grass
Member since Jul 2010
60295 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 9:01 pm to
Rockauto.com

Buy the parts and change it yourself.

I did it and then Sherwood auto charged like $120 to pull a vacuum for two hours and recharge the system.

Colder than ever.

Under $400. Compressor, condenser, dryer, line flush. Just a few hours study and work time.

ETA: Have you talked to the guys who fix your car? Most of us are a lot smarter than them. You can figure it out.
This post was edited on 4/13/18 at 9:25 pm
Posted by lsu1919
Member since May 2017
3244 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 9:22 pm to
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If it was an internal failure you are going to have small particles of metal throughout your whole ac system. If you do not flush these out you will probably have trouble with the new compressor shortly


Just going to reiterate this.

Honda’s are bad about this. If you don’t flush the system you’ll be doing it again soon. At least a professional place will have a warranty.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30009 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 9:42 pm to
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To access the compressor and compressor clutch, you have to completely remove the front right wheel well.


For the 06-11 Civics you don't HAVE to remove the wheel well or put the car on a lift but you would have to remove the alternator and deal with the bottom compressor bolts blind. As a DIY mechanic that would be my goto but you will need the right tools to get into the space and if the bottom bolts are seized or you aren't adept at working blind you may have to still go through the wheel well. A mechanic in a shop will go through the wheel well since they will use impact (which is within arms reach) to remove the wheel and can lift the car to work on the compressor at a comfortable height and never have to touch the alternator.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 10:25 pm to
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Damn, dude. You don't need to drop in my thread with your salty arse comment.

It's the OT, buttercup. The only seasoning we have is salt.
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 11:14 pm to
Honestly this job sucks. I bought my own parts online and had someone install them. Compressor, drier, expansion valve and I think condenser. $900-1000 all in
Posted by djangochained
Gardere
Member since Jul 2013
19119 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 11:36 pm to
Does ole girl like to sweat ?
Posted by lsu xman
Member since Oct 2006
16683 posts
Posted on 4/14/18 at 3:17 am to
Not hard baw.

Prayers sent..
Posted by LongueCarabine
Pointe Aux Pins, LA
Member since Jan 2011
8205 posts
Posted on 4/14/18 at 4:59 am to
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Is it a difficult job?


Four bolts and two hose connections on my old Cherokee.

Literally cost me about $350. Easy peasy.
Posted by Redlos
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2005
1161 posts
Posted on 4/14/18 at 5:32 am to
Done it on my 4Runner and Accord, about a whole weekend job. Fairly hard job and more work than you think. Plenty of YouTube and internet resources to help, like others have said, the transverse engine sucks to work on. How much do you value your own time and frustration? Only you can decide that.
Posted by FenrirTheBeard
NOLA
Member since Jun 2012
6744 posts
Posted on 4/14/18 at 8:09 am to
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Just going to reiterate this. Honda’s are bad about this. If you don’t flush the system you’ll be doing it again soon. At least a professional place will have a warranty.


Here is a question: if I get it professionally flushed, would it make the job more doable for me?

I called and got a second quote for $1185, and just to get it flushed is $35.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43031 posts
Posted on 4/14/18 at 8:38 am to
I guess you can get it drained, install everything and then bring it to them to get charged. You're gonna be replacing basically the whole system though. For a novice, it can be pretty overwhelming.

This post was edited on 4/14/18 at 8:39 am
Posted by airfernando
Member since Oct 2015
15248 posts
Posted on 4/14/18 at 9:04 am to
Not hard but you have to disconnect and reconnect lines that involve refrigerate gas. That complicates the process. You have to pull a vacuum in the process, so you need that equipment and a pretty strong air compressor. It's still a lot cheaper but you'll have to look at some videos. It's very doable. It's an intermediate level job.
Posted by porkrind
Hog Jaw
Member since Apr 2012
950 posts
Posted on 4/14/18 at 9:26 am to
After reading this thread I guess I got lucky. I bought a compressor for my lexus off ebay for $100 and recharged the system in my driveway. That was 2 years ago and it still works fine.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
73144 posts
Posted on 4/14/18 at 10:51 am to
It's easy to do. Rent a vaccuum pump to do it right.

Also a rule of thumb, you should always change the filter/dryer whenever you open a sealed system.
Posted by FenrirTheBeard
NOLA
Member since Jun 2012
6744 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 8:08 am to
After shopping around I found a small, local shop who will do it for $700. That's less than half the price of what we were quoted at Firestone. Probably gonna just do that and save myself the headache and/or mistakes I would make.
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