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OT Lawyers: Joint auto loan question

Posted on 12/13/16 at 8:34 pm
Posted by TigrrrDad
Member since Oct 2016
8190 posts
Posted on 12/13/16 at 8:34 pm
Last year I tried to be the good guy and helped my nephew buy a truck. In Louisiana you can't cosign, so I had to do a joint loan. The truck is registered to his name and address, but both names are on the loan. I've been paying the note, but due to circumstances I don't care to mention I'm now at the "frick him" stage. Obviously if I stop paying the note, he may lose the car but I adversely affect my credit. What, if any, recourse do I have? I don't mind paying for the thing, I just don't want him to have it. Is there any way to force a sale to cut my losses?
This post was edited on 12/13/16 at 8:35 pm
Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
54207 posts
Posted on 12/13/16 at 8:52 pm to
You can't consign in LA?
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
20706 posts
Posted on 12/13/16 at 8:55 pm to
I'd think you would have recourse to take the truck and drive it yourself or sell it, which you should do promptly.
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18919 posts
Posted on 12/13/16 at 8:58 pm to
What was the purpose of putting the car in his name and not yours? Was the joint auto loan designed to help build his credit? In my opinion, you should have put the car in your name and signed it over once it was free and clear.
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George, LA
Member since Aug 2004
80814 posts
Posted on 12/13/16 at 8:58 pm to
quote:

I'd think you would have recourse to take the truck and drive it yourself or sell it, which you should do promptly
Posted by Marco Esquandolas
Member since Jul 2013
11878 posts
Posted on 12/13/16 at 9:03 pm to
You make a bad decision...

...then come to the OT for legal advice.


I see a pattern starting.
Posted by TigrrrDad
Member since Oct 2016
8190 posts
Posted on 12/13/16 at 9:08 pm to
quote:

What was the purpose of putting the car in his name and not yours? Was the joint auto loan designed to help build his credit? In my opinion, you should have put the car in your name and signed it over once it was free and clear.


Yes, the main purpose was to help him build credit, and the amount of the payment doesn't affect my finances much. The sole purpose of registering the car in his name was to limit my liability as much as possible if he got in an accident.

I'm assuming that since the loan is in both our names, the title will be also if the loan is paid off - therefore he wouldn't be able to sell or trade in the vehicle without both of our signatures (though neither could I).
Posted by NewIberiaHaircut
Lafayette
Member since May 2013
12537 posts
Posted on 12/13/16 at 9:10 pm to
Kick his arse. Sounds like his Dad isn't.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
42508 posts
Posted on 12/13/16 at 9:10 pm to
It's so bad you can't talk?
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
26315 posts
Posted on 12/13/16 at 9:32 pm to
Have you tried giving him the choice between agreeing to let you sell the truck since he hasn't been paying the note or taking him to court over it. Good chance he'd agree to the sale to avoid possibility of having to go to court
Posted by TigerGman
Center of the Universe
Member since Sep 2006
14079 posts
Posted on 12/13/16 at 9:35 pm to
You're screwed. The truck's in his name. You have NO right to it.
Posted by TigrrrDad
Member since Oct 2016
8190 posts
Posted on 12/13/16 at 9:37 pm to
The truck isn't in his name though - the registration is. The title (held by the lienholder) would be in both of our names. Right?
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 12/13/16 at 9:39 pm to
quote:

I'm assuming that since the loan is in both our names, the title will be also if the loan is paid off - therefore he wouldn't be able to sell or trade in the vehicle without both of our signatures (though neither could I).


I'd say that is a bad assumption.
Posted by Tigerpaw123
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2007
17918 posts
Posted on 12/13/16 at 9:40 pm to
If the vehicle is registered in his name only, I don't think you have much of any options, you just get to pay for it. I agree that you made a good decision to put in his name to ,imit your liability, but this is the down side. Send him a strong letter, and make some threats, but when it comes down to it, I think your options are slim, call the lender and the xplain the situation and see if they can help
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 12/13/16 at 9:42 pm to
quote:


The truck isn't in his name though - the registration is. The title (held by the lienholder) would be in both of our names. Right?


Doubt it.
Posted by djangochained
Gardere
Member since Jul 2013
19183 posts
Posted on 12/13/16 at 9:43 pm to
Bang his aunt?
Posted by bubbz
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
23136 posts
Posted on 12/13/16 at 10:10 pm to
If both names are on the loan, you are obviously responsible for the loan. If he is only on the registration and title, then you can't do anything about it without his signature. Bottom line...
Posted by TigerGman
Center of the Universe
Member since Sep 2006
14079 posts
Posted on 12/13/16 at 10:12 pm to
quote:

call the lender and the xplain the situation and see if they can help


He needs to sue his nephew. About his only option and not much of one.
Posted by MetryMike
Member since Jun 2013
160 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 1:37 am to
1. If his name only is on the registration, then he is the registered owner and you have no claim to the vehicle.

2. Your credit would be negatively affected if you let it be repossessed (assuming failure to pay would be reported).

3. You could possibly make a claim against nephew for reimbursement. Good luck with that.

One course of action, as suggested, is to call the lender and ask for relief - removal from loan and non-reporting to credit agencies. Some slim chance someone would be sympathetic to your situation. Otherwise bite the bullet and pay it off, and let nephew know you expect him to make it good one way or another. But to answer your specific question, you can make a claim against him (less cost and relaxed rules in Parish/City court if your locale has them) but you have no way to force a sale to cut your losses. Perhaps filing a suit against him might produce that reaction or he will donate the car to you (no tax) to resolve it.
This post was edited on 12/14/16 at 1:39 am
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 2:10 am to
quote:

I'd think you would have recourse to take the truck and drive it yourself or sell it, which you should do promptly.


nope, if he is not on the title he is fricked as far as this being simple. Otherwise there would be no need for leinholder titles
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