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re: OT Lawyer advice needed—Stolen motorcycle recovery, bike secured NEW UPDATE p.35

Posted on 4/9/21 at 9:18 am to
Posted by eitek1
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 4/9/21 at 9:18 am to
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Could there be any question as to if it's actually the same bike in the videos? Like could they just say they also had a bike in the same color or whatever?


No chance... I even analyzed the tread patterns on the aftermarket tires. It’s the exact same bike.
Posted by DomincDecoco
RIP Ronnie fights Thoth’s loafers
Member since Oct 2018
11941 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 9:19 am to
I suggest that if nothing happens in 2-4 weeks, give all that shite to Lee Zurich and sit back

If he takes it, would be an all timer for the board
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
156626 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 9:19 am to
I think you fricked up the quoting, may want to fix it.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
23036 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 9:20 am to
So is there a chance you still get these guys popped even though you've posted the story here? Or is it over with now?
Posted by Soft_Parade
North Carolina Coast
Member since Sep 2005
2618 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 9:23 am to
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14 Jan 2021 – An officer with the Columbus Police Department traveled to the Shop/Wrecker service to validate the Vehicle Identification Number on the Stolen Motorcycle. The Columbus PD leaves the stolen motorcycle in the possession of The Shop/Wrecker service.

What was the catalyst for the VIN verification?
Posted by fatboydave
Fat boy land
Member since Aug 2004
17979 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 9:24 am to
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Dec 2014 – 2007 Yamaha R6 motor cycle owned by BruceJender is stolen in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. The Baton Rouge Police Department filed a report and registered the bike as stolen in the NCIC database. After the first year, the NCIC stolen status of the bike is not updated and it is removed from the database.

14 Jan 2021 – An officer with the Columbus Police Department traveled to the Shop/Wrecker service to validate the Vehicle Identification Number on the Stolen Motorcycle. The Columbus PD leaves the stolen motorcycle in the possession of The Shop/Wrecker service.


What happened to get the Columbus PD to go check the VIN?

Has Bruce contacted an attorney about pursuing a civil fraud case against Karen & Terry? That opens another can of worms and costs for defense.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
23036 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 9:25 am to
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I suggest that if nothing happens in 2-4 weeks, give all that shite to Lee Zurich and sit back

If he takes it, would be an all timer for the board

Can you imagine Zurik or Nakamoto getting their hands on this?

Posted by eitek1
Member since Jun 2011
2842 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 9:27 am to
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So is there a chance you still get these guys popped even though you've posted the story here? Or is it over with now?


This is what I have been worried about. The pics are still on Terry’s social media. This is all the time stamped proof I have. All that has been documented but not by law enforcement. I gave everyone an alias in hopes no one figures this out and tells them. They are still in the dark as far as I know. I have a real thick country accent. It’s my super power. Most people immediately assign stereotypes when they hear it and really open up.

At this point, I still have a good relationship with the bad guys.
Posted by eitek1
Member since Jun 2011
2842 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 9:28 am to
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What was the catalyst for the VIN verification?


Karen applied for a title and it flagged in the DMV system. The NCIC database had already cleared it. Once it flagged law enforcement became aware. Exactly how that happened, I don’t know.
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
156626 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 9:28 am to
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What was the catalyst for the VIN verification?


And why would they knowingly leave a stolen bike with the wrecker and not take possession of it?
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
156626 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 9:30 am to
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Can you imagine Zurik or Nakamoto getting their hands on this?

Honestly, shite like this is what Nakamoto gets off on. I'd imagine he would run with this, and at the very least it would generate some attention to it which could make some consequences happen.

And even better since pretty much all of the legwork is already done for him.
Posted by SPEEDY
2005 Tiger Smack Poster of the Year
Member since Dec 2003
88199 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 9:31 am to
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I even analyzed the tread patterns on the aftermarket tires. It’s the exact same bike.


Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
156626 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 9:32 am to
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SPEEDY

You have to have "people." DO SOMETHING, MAN.


I have a question for eitek/BJ: What is the "settlement" between you guys? I know early on BJ said he just wants to see some conclusions and wrote the bike off a long time ago and all that. Are y'all selling and splitting the proceeds? Is eitek keeping the bike? Do y'all go bro out around town now?
Posted by eitek1
Member since Jun 2011
2842 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 9:37 am to
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And why would they knowingly leave a stolen bike with the wrecker and not take possession of it?


This was shocking to me. I basically told the Investigator “I’m coming to get the motorcycle on Friday and I’m going to get it from you or I’m to get it from them. One of these scenarios is likely to get ugly, but I am coming back with a motorcycle”.

The investigator was actually really cool about this. He actually did me a favor through all of that. I think he believes that other than this discretion, Karen and Terry are good people and might not even know they were breaking the law.

During our separate calls they both lied to me at length and did it with ease. This wasn’t their first time.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
41559 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 9:40 am to
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This is what I have been worried about. The pics are still on Terry’s social media. This is all the time stamped proof I have. All that has been documented but not by law enforcement. I gave everyone an alias in hopes no one figures this out and tells them. They are still in the dark as far as I know. I have a real thick country accent. It’s my super power. Most people immediately assign stereotypes when they hear it and really open up.


If that's the case, I would delete the post about Terry's name not being Terry, and the proximity of the wrecker shop to the agents business.
Posted by eitek1
Member since Jun 2011
2842 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 9:46 am to
quote:

I have a question for eitek/BJ: What is the "settlement" between you guys? I know early on BJ said he just wants to see some conclusions and wrote the bike off a long time ago and all that. Are y'all selling and splitting the proceeds? Is eitek keeping the bike? Do y'all go bro out around town now?


I’m the titled owner of the motorcycle at this point. BJ turned the motorcycle over to me. I still have it and to date have dumped about 1k into it to get it to the point of being able to sell it. I did buy a van and give it to some folks in need so this kind of works out. I may keep the bike at least for a while. I don’t want to sell it without validating its condition by riding it a bit. It may have gremlins and I don’t want to take advantage of anyone by selling them a basket case. That said the motor runs good but I think I have to adjust the valves. I have new fairings on order as the other ones were trashed. When they come in I’ll post a pic of the bike.

I did have the opportunity to meet BJ and he is a solid dude. He actually had the chance to listen to the recorded calls.
Posted by Uncle Stu
#AlbinoLivesMatter
Member since Aug 2004
33865 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 9:47 am to
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Uncle Stu
Posted on 2/5/21 at 5:46 pm to eitek1


(1) Someone they either know or dont know sold them (maybe just dropped off) the bike, cash under the table, without paperwork.

OR

(2) They towed the bike from private property, a parking lot, an apartment complex, etc.

Within 10-14 days, they knew it came back stolen. They kept it, thought they could play the system, wait it out and turn the bike around once they got a new title. They dummied up an fake invoice under a customer's name they knew couldn't be tracked down (because he doesnt exist). It was their version of leverage to get him to legally release the bike, as there was no way to get a new title with that VIN otherwise.


Called my shot, 2 months ago....I'm going with option #2

Posted by WildManGoose
Member since Nov 2005
4607 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 9:49 am to
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Could an outside agency do any damage with the information?

Also, I assume the USPS was involved due to the mailing of the fraudulent invoices? That has to be a felony, huh?


It seems like the NOLA FBI field office would be able to do something with an interstate theft and fraud scenario. Coordinate with the USPS and local authorities at the least.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74274 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 9:52 am to
Awesome. This thread got overshadowed by the thread of the year and now it pops back into prominence.
Posted by Sidicous
NELA
Member since Aug 2015
19296 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 9:55 am to
Another twist you can instigate.

Insurance Agents are registered/licensed by the State Insurance Commissioner. He/she may be interested in the illegal activities of a licensed agent. Go ahead and get another agency involved in the investigation of these crooks.

If this insurance agent is involved in illegal scams outside insurance, you can bet she ain't squeaky clean with her main line of work, insurance.
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