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Posted on 4/9/21 at 8:32 am to eitek1
Posted on 4/9/21 at 8:35 am to eitek1
So, how does the bike run?
Posted on 4/9/21 at 8:35 am to eitek1
Posted on 4/9/21 at 8:36 am to eitek1
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29 Jan 2021 Eitek1 sends “Cease and Desist” letter to Karen via USPS Certified Mail to stop the abandonment process on the stolen motorcycle. The USPS loses the letter in transit. As of 9 Mar 21 the letter is still “in transit”.
This is the least surprising thing in the entire twisted story.
In all seriousness, I hope Karen and Terry get taken down and the book is thrown at both of them. Thieves are scum of the earth and deserve every bad thing that comes their way.
I do hope that the local PDs aren't in on the scam. It seems that Karen and Terry could be part of some "Good ol Boy" network where the criminals and cops make a little extra cash on the side and everyone looks the other way. I really hope that isn't the case here.
Again, kudos to you for taking the time to push this as far as you ha e. Most people would just say it isn't worth the time and just forget about it. Respect
Posted on 4/9/21 at 8:37 am to eitek1
Holy shite what a thread. You've delivered, my man. I hope Karen and Terry get bent over for the stuff they're trying to pull.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 8:40 am to eitek1
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The letter also asserts the stolen motorcycle is going up for auction on 8 Mar 2021.
So what came of this? Did she try to put it up for auction?
Posted on 4/9/21 at 8:47 am to SouthEndzoneTiger
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So what came of this? Did she try to put it up for auction?
That’s why I called her. I tried to get law enforcement to intervene but they weren’t interested. I called them directly. They did not try to put it up for auction.
BTW... the calls are already edited for upload to YouTube. I was told not to upload them because for some reason they wouldn’t be admissible.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 8:49 am to eitek1
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Danny Smith
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Karen
This seems to be a key point here....What's the connection? Is Karen's maiden name Smith?
Posted on 4/9/21 at 8:52 am to Uncle Stu
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This seems to be a key point here....What's the connection? Is Karen's maiden name Smith?
Danny Smith was just a name plugged into the fictitious invoice. The problem is, they didn’t use a fictitious person. They used a real guy. The investigator knew the guy too.
He is no relation to Karen.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 8:56 am to eitek1
Ok, two things jump out at me immediately:
1. You have proof of shop owner possessing bike in 2016.
2. You have a current MS license plate registered to the agent.
I live in Mississippi. I have personal experience buying a vehicle in Mississippi that came from New Orleans, and the douchebag skipped Title and sold it under a defunct dealership business (yeah, I know, it sounds stupid looking back).
I had absolutely no problem getting my registration and license plate with the application for title immediately after purchase. Title never came in, seller left the country, DOR wouldn't give me a new tag when renewal came up. I had to talk to the DOR numerous times and they had to conduct an investigation, which went nowhere, because the seller lives on a fricking island now.
DOR solved it for me by setting me up with a third party that gave me a Title bond.
You might want to call the Mississippi DOR in Jackson and find out what you can about that license plate. I bet agent got a title bond at some point, and if so, DOR has a paper trail.
ETA: you're savvy enough to have figured this out, I'm sure, but I thought it might be helpful.
1. You have proof of shop owner possessing bike in 2016.
2. You have a current MS license plate registered to the agent.
I live in Mississippi. I have personal experience buying a vehicle in Mississippi that came from New Orleans, and the douchebag skipped Title and sold it under a defunct dealership business (yeah, I know, it sounds stupid looking back).
I had absolutely no problem getting my registration and license plate with the application for title immediately after purchase. Title never came in, seller left the country, DOR wouldn't give me a new tag when renewal came up. I had to talk to the DOR numerous times and they had to conduct an investigation, which went nowhere, because the seller lives on a fricking island now.
DOR solved it for me by setting me up with a third party that gave me a Title bond.
You might want to call the Mississippi DOR in Jackson and find out what you can about that license plate. I bet agent got a title bond at some point, and if so, DOR has a paper trail.
ETA: you're savvy enough to have figured this out, I'm sure, but I thought it might be helpful.
This post was edited on 4/9/21 at 9:00 am
Posted on 4/9/21 at 8:57 am to eitek1
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eitek1
Well done. Before I respond to the individual facts presented, I want to say thanks for all of this. I know we've given you tons of shite about it, and I know it's not really panning out like you/we hoped, but in the end you basically stepped up and did BJ a solid on your own time and at your own will. And that's very highly commendable.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 9:04 am to CocomoLSU
Columbus Police Department
Address: 1501 Main St, Columbus, MS 39701
Phone: (662) 244-3500
a wtf call may be in order
Address: 1501 Main St, Columbus, MS 39701
Phone: (662) 244-3500
a wtf call may be in order
Posted on 4/9/21 at 9:04 am to eitek1
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• When the stolen motorcycle was recovered it was recovered with a current, up to date license plate. This plate indicates the motorcycle is registered in Mississippi to “Karen” wife of the Wrecker Company owner.
Hmmm, so it was recovered and showed her as the owner, yet further down there is this:
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23 Jan 2021 – BruceJender received a Certified Letter from Karen on behalf of the Shop outlining the repairs made which included an administrative fee. An invoice is included and BruceJender’s name is on the invoice in the place of Danny Smith. The letter also states that per Karen, the bike is considered by her to be abandoned and the official abandonment process has been started on the vehicle. Karen, the Wrecker service or the Shop is attempting to take legal possession of the stolen motorcycle.
So does that mean that she eventually completed the abandonment process and "assumed control" of the bike (as in she is the owner now?).
The title thing is confusing me.
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5 Feb 2021 BruceJender discovers an Instagram video showing Terry (shop owner) with the Stolen Motorcycle. This suggests that Terry has been riding the motorcycle.
If you can answer this, how the frick did BJ manage to randomly find a video of his motorcycle with these assholes? There has to be something there with that.
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17 Feb 2021 Karen sends another demand for payment for the repair of the motorcycle via certified mail to BruceJender. In addition to the charges on the previous demand for payment, an additional $1,500 dollars in storage fees were added to the total. These charges are fraudulent because the stolen motorcycle was in Eitek1’s possession during most of the time the Shop claimed it was being stored. This is more proof of fraud.
The letter also asserts the stolen motorcycle is going up for auction on 8 Mar 2021. This indicates Karen has already applied for an abandoned title based on the fraudulent invoice. This application requires and affidavit to be filed about the nature of the motorcycle. This indicates another instance of fraud.
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3 Mar 21 Eitek1 calls Terry and discusses the motorcycle and the current situation. Terry incriminates himself.
3 Mar 21 Eitek1 Calls Karen and discussed the motorcycle and invoice. Karen also incriminates herself on the call.
Can you explain how they incriminated themselves? Or is that something you're keeping on the down low until this is either solved or abandoned?
Posted on 4/9/21 at 9:11 am to IAmNERD
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In all seriousness, I hope Karen and Terry get taken down and the book is thrown at both of them. Thieves are scum of the earth and deserve every bad thing that comes their way.
I do hope that the local PDs aren't in on the scam. It seems that Karen and Terry could be part of some "Good ol Boy" network where the criminals and cops make a little extra cash on the side and everyone looks the other way. I really hope that isn't the case here.
Agree with all of that, and my assumption is the second part of what you said. Being that the investigator not only knows Terry personally, but also seemed to stall his investigation and went nowhere with it, has to mean something. Has to.
And in a small town in MS like this, there's almost no way these assholes aren't in some sort of cahoots with law enforcement on some level.
And like you said, frick a thief. I hope they at least get SOME sort of retribution thrown their way. But somehow if it could end with throwing the book at them, that would be ideal.
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The law enforcement agencies that are in possession of this information are; the Columbus PD, the MS Attorney Generals office and the U.S. Postal inspectors.
As of 9 APR 21, no action has been taken.
Are there any other agencies that could get involved with this? It seems like eitek has covered most of the bases, and I am unfamiliar with which agencies handle what types of cases. But all of this just seems SO frickING CUT AND DRY that there should end up being some sort of conclusion to it all. I know it's not a murder, but it's like walking up to the cops and giving them all of the suspects and evidence to solve the murder case, and then them just being like "Meh, we don't really want to pursue these facts." It doesn't make any sense.
Could an outside agency do any damage with the information?
Also, I assume the USPS was involved due to the mailing of the fraudulent invoices? That has to be a felony, huh?
Posted on 4/9/21 at 9:11 am to CocomoLSU
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If you can answer this, how the frick did BJ manage to randomly find a video of his motorcycle with these a-holes? There has to be something there with that.
I had previously searched all social media looking for any info. I never found a single account because the shop owner. BruceJender stumbled on that while searching. Once I had the name used in social media everything was there when I searched.
This all happened while I was eating dinner directly after getting back to my house from picking up the motorcycle. This was mind blowing because at this point I knew everything else was a lie.
This post was edited on 4/9/21 at 9:50 am
Posted on 4/9/21 at 9:12 am to eitek1
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Danny Smith was just a name plugged into the fictitious invoice. The problem is, they didn’t use a fictitious person. They used a real guy. The investigator knew the guy too.
He is no relation to Karen.
So does the "real" Danny Smith have anything to do with this shite? Or is it just that they used a common name that happens to also be some random guy the investigator knows?
Posted on 4/9/21 at 9:12 am to CocomoLSU
Posted on 4/9/21 at 9:15 am to eitek1
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I had previously searched all social media looking for any info. I never found a single account because the shop owner has a really unique name. (It’s not Terry). He used a shortened version of his first name. BruceJender stumbled on that while searching. Once I had the name used in social media everything was there when I searched.
Makes sense.
Could there be any question as to if it's actually the same bike in the videos? Like could they just say they also had a bike in the same color or whatever?
Posted on 4/9/21 at 9:17 am to CocomoLSU
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I know it's not a murder, but it's like walking up to the cops and giving them all of the suspects and evidence to solve the murder case.
You are only seeing a portion of what I have. What I sent to law enforcement could be presented in court. I did ALL the work for them. I basically wrote a couple of reports outlining laws broken and proof they could present for a conviction, and where they could get it.
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Also, I assume the USPS was involved due to the mailing of the fraudulent invoices? That has to be a felony, huh?
Yes, it’s mail fraud. The Postal Inspector was supposed to call me back a week ago and I got nothing. He was the one that said “this is the craziest story I’ve heard and I’ve been in law enforcement for 15 years”. That surprised me but whatever.
This post was edited on 4/9/21 at 9:23 am
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