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re: OT Engineers—How Insulating is Bubble Wrap?

Posted on 12/21/22 at 3:50 pm to
Posted by rexorotten
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Posted on 12/21/22 at 3:50 pm to
Bubble wrap can withstand absolute zero. Trust me, I'm a Custodial Engineer.
This post was edited on 12/21/22 at 3:52 pm
Posted by LC Baw
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Posted on 12/21/22 at 3:50 pm to
Coozie, grocery bag & electrical tape never fails
Posted by carbon
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Posted on 12/21/22 at 3:51 pm to
Air is an excellent thermal insulator. Hence its use in double pane windows and Styrofoam coolers. Those Styrofoam style cap covers function well due to fact that air makes up the majority of Styrofoam's volume and you essentially create a large air pocket around the valve.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 12/21/22 at 3:52 pm to
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Not sure air is a very good insulator.


Air is the opposite - poor conductor of heat. It's why you dress in layers.
Posted by jamiegla1
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 12/21/22 at 3:54 pm to
its not a good insulator. Try sleeping on an uninsulated air mattress in the cold to see how "good an insulator air is"

ETA - when people say air is a good insulator, of course it is compared to something conductive like liquid or solid. But his question is about application. A layer of bubble wrap will slow convective heat transfer and do little to prevent radiant and conductive heat transfer.

When people say that air is a good insulator, they are referring to trapped pockets of air that limit convection. A single 1/4" pocket of air is not great. Thats why your outer walls actually have insulation in them. Thats why jackets use down or synthetic fibers with many trapped pockets of air.

Like I said, go sleep on an uninsulated air mattress on a cold night and see how you feel. It sucks. Go zip yourself up in a tent (giant air pocket) and see if you freeze when temps drop below 20.
This post was edited on 12/22/22 at 8:48 am
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Posted on 12/21/22 at 3:56 pm to
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How Insulating is Bubble Wrap?


If I had to guess at an R-value, I'd probably end up around 0.1, meaning it ain't doing much of anything for you.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 12/21/22 at 3:57 pm to
Most bubble wrap has an R value of 1.1.

Compared to "regular" foam pipe insulation it has an R value of 3.

Just wrap your bubble wrap 3 times to get more insulative value from your bubble wrap than regular pipe insulation and tape it well so air cannot move in and out.
Posted by RobbBobb
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Posted on 12/21/22 at 3:58 pm to
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African or European Bubble Wrap?
Miricun. Dafaq do you take me for, some kind of hippie?

Someone needs to broaden their film library
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Posted on 12/21/22 at 3:59 pm to
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Not sure air is a very good insulator.


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Air is the opposite


quote:

poor conductor of heat.


The frick?




Posted by MightyYat
StB Garden District
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Posted on 12/21/22 at 3:59 pm to
Towels and duct tape. Takes about 3 minutes.
Posted by bee Rye
New orleans
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Posted on 12/21/22 at 4:00 pm to
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its not a good insulator. Try sleeping on an uninsulated air mattress in the cold to see how "good an insulator air is"



that's not how any of this works
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Posted on 12/21/22 at 4:01 pm to
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Most bubble wrap has an R value of 1.1.


That's foil-faced bubble wrap, not packing bubble wrap.
Posted by wheelr
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Posted on 12/21/22 at 4:01 pm to
Try foil. I put it in the windows of my home and it works great.
Posted by JudgeHolden
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Posted on 12/21/22 at 4:03 pm to
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Someone needs to broaden their film library


Ok, ok. I get it now!
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Posted on 12/21/22 at 4:04 pm to
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that's not how any of this works


That's exactly how it works. There's a reason why Yeti cups are "evacuated cylinders." The vacuum pulled reduces the molecules available to convect within the walls.

Will an air pocked slow down heat loss? Yes. Would I, as an engineer and certified energy manager use it to wrap my pipes before this cold front? Only as an absolute last resort. As someone above mentioned, an old rag and duct tape will work far better.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 12/21/22 at 4:04 pm to
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That's foil-faced bubble wrap, not packing bubble wrap.


Oh, we are talking about packing for shipping? Then IDK. It's probably close.
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Posted on 12/21/22 at 4:05 pm to
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Just wrap your bubble wrap 3 times to get more insulative value from your bubble wrap than regular pipe insulation and tape it well so air cannot move in and out.



Better than nothing, but just barely.
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Posted on 12/21/22 at 4:06 pm to
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Oh, we are talking about packing for shipping? Then IDK. It's probably close.


I assumed that's what he's talking about.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 12/21/22 at 4:09 pm to
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The vacuum pulled reduces the molecules available to convect within the walls.


Yeti also coats the inside of their cups with copper through copper electroplating. Copper is an excellent reflector of infrared radiation. Most cup manufactures don't go the extra step to insulate for radiation.
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 12/21/22 at 4:10 pm to
While bubble wrap was thought to be non migratory recent science is open to a theory they do migrate but need the help of avians to complete the migration process. However, due to modern political intrusion it is becoming apparent that crossing country borders would make the bubble wrap illegal.
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