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re: OT dads, how do you handle this situation where the outcome doesn’t end in prison?

Posted on 6/17/19 at 7:54 am to
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
11120 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 7:54 am to
Prison would be worth kicking that kids arse. And I think theyd go pretty light on you after seeing that video.
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 8:26 am to
quote:

Dad: Do you have your license?
Me: Yes
Dad: Good, because at the end of the night, one of us is going to the hospital and the other is going to jail, and they need to know what you used to look like.


Grown men are the world’s greatest shite talkers
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41030 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 8:41 am to
I can tell you what I did when this happened with my daughter........


In both cases (yes, it happened twice), the confrontation ended with her getting crushed by a perfect, SEC caliber form tackle. Once I delivered it when she raised her hand to my wife. The second my son delivered after she nearly hit him with her car.

The first episode we ended up a Children’s Hospital. They did nothing. The second episode we started at UAB emergency room because they have the only psych ER in the state. That culminated in a week long stay at Hillcrest mental hospital.

The bottom line to this: once a kid figures out that the parent has ZERO support from the system, there’s no threat you can make and follow through with. I always love hearing from parents of normal kids how you need to do this or need to do that in order to get little Johnny/Jane to modify their behavior. Yeah. How do you parent a kid who tries to jump out of a car going down the interstate? How do you parent a kid that hands you her fricking cellphone and smiles when you ground her?

Mental illness sucks.
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 8:50 am to
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Yeah. How do you parent a kid who tries to jump out of a car going down the interstate? How do you parent a kid that hands you her fricking cellphone and smiles when you ground her?


Majority of kids aren’t like this though.
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
65413 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 8:54 am to
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Easy answer don't have kids you never have to deal with shite like this.
Typical Arky-type answer.

Ready, fire, aim.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90389 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 9:03 am to
Why was it being filmed? Obviously the pos kid was trying to get a reaction so he could take him to court.

If it were me I’d have snatched up that camera then given that little shithead what he was asking for. Not violently beat him, but a good strong slap right across the mouth would work
Posted by madmaxvol
Infinity + 1 Posts
Member since Oct 2011
19104 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 9:10 am to
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There's another video.... the dad ended up laying the lil $h!t out....but it's too little too late. Daddy should've never let it get anywhere near that outta hand.


quote:

link?


LINK
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 9:14 am to
If you raise your children, you'll get to spoil your grandchildren.

Spoil your children, and you'll have to raise your grandchildren.

Posted by WoWyHi
Member since Jul 2009
23339 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 9:14 am to
Yeah this looks fake as hell.
Posted by TheDeathValley
New Orleans, LA
Member since Sep 2010
17129 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 9:16 am to
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OT dads, how do you handle this situation where the outcome doesn’t end in prison?



I'll be honest, I would gladly sit in prison after whooping my son (and probably his friend's) arse for being a little shite here.

I would only regret being a dad that let it get to this.
Posted by GeauxGutsy
Member since Jul 2017
4701 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 9:16 am to
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If you raise your children, you'll get to spoil your grandchildren.

Spoil your children, and you'll have to raise your grandchildren.


Can confirm this is made up jibber-jabber
Posted by HuskyPanda
Philly
Member since Feb 2018
1712 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 9:18 am to
Saw the second video where the dad supposedly knocks the son out but I gotta be honest, it all seems fake to me.
The fighting in the second one was very weak and the fight conveniently goes out of frame and when it comes back in the son is knocked out. Not buying it.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 9:22 am to
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Can confirm this is made up jibber-jabber





Just something my father-in-law said once. I thought it was solid.

Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41030 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 9:24 am to
There are no good answers here.


The kid is obviously having an episode of some sort either drug induced, medication induced, or a mental breakdown.

If you call the cops, one of two things happens: 1. They escalate an already tense confrontation and someone gets seriously hurt or shot, 2. They empathize with you as the parent, but politely inform you that unless the child is threatening to hurt themselves, there’s nothing they can do.

Given that the kid is sixteen, guess what? They control the decisions surrounding medical care. That means that you can’t make them go and get psychiatric help. So the condition that is affecting the child is also the condition that is preventing them from getting help. Awesome isn’t it?

So what are your choices here? There really are none. You can’t force them out of the house because you would get arrested for child abuse or abandonment. You can’t beat them because that’ll definitely end you in jail. No amount of punishment will reach the kid in question.

This post was edited on 6/17/19 at 9:26 am
Posted by GeorgeQGlass
Austin
Member since Oct 2017
297 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 9:24 am to
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Nothing you can do with a kid who is obviously mentally disturbed but do what this father did.


Huh????? What??

What do you mean nothing you can do?? That's your son. Get in there, motherfricker and quick before he becomes an even bigger douche.

Guarantee you he doesn't pay for jack shite. He wants to act like a man, show him want being a man really is.

There's plenty you can do, but with your attitude, he'll go on being a twat.

That's the problem...dad probably saw his shitty ways a few years back and like you thought, "well, not much I can do"
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
21835 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 9:28 am to
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There's another video.... the dad ended up laying the lil $h!t out....but it's too little too late.
LINK

Seems staged/fake to me. Those looked like some weak shoves and tackle to the ground where they're conveniently blocked by the sofa then kid is already "KO'd" and dad is walking away by time camera gets over there. Seems like the whole thing was an act to create a viral video.
Posted by GeorgeQGlass
Austin
Member since Oct 2017
297 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 9:30 am to
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Mental illness sucks


Serious question. No troll...

Were your kids on any medication growing up? Any ADD, depression, anxiety meds?
Posted by yccsmf
Member since Apr 2013
529 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 9:31 am to
My son is 21 and has never given me any trouble and definitely would never behave like this. But I still could never throw a punch at him if he became confrontational. I don’t understand how a father would want to punch their son in the face. I could easily restrain him until he calmed down, and give him a few good shakes and get the message across that he’s clearly overmatched. Call me a pussy I guess, but I could never hit him in anger. Fortunately, I know he respects me too much to ever behave that way.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41030 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 9:48 am to
Nope.


We realized something was wrong with my daughter at around 13. We just thought we had a strong willed child. We thought that the issues at school weren’t really about her, but the other kids in question. We started therapy at 13. We started psychiatrists at 16 along with medication. I had one shrink tell me the only way to prevent her from killing herself was to send her to a $50K/year in patient hospital (remember, at this point I can’t make her go because of her age).

There are no good answers for a child with a mental illness. As evidenced by some of the responses in this thread, the parenting community views you as a failure in the raising of your child. You should have set the boundaries earlier, you should have punished harder, you should have done this, or that, or whatever. When the entire time your dealing with something else entirely.

Posted by lsu1919
Member since May 2017
3244 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 9:49 am to
Pretty sure that video is fake, but I agree I could never hit my kid in the face or do serious damage.

But I'd damn sure punch him right in the solar plexus if he got up in my face like that.

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