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re: OT conundrum - Birth Rates Declining and Abortion Regulation
Posted on 6/19/25 at 9:44 am to Odysseus32
Posted on 6/19/25 at 9:44 am to Odysseus32
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How does the OT reconcile with abortion regulation stopping sensible people from having kids?
Sensible people don't have abortions.
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Posted on 6/19/25 at 9:45 am to beerJeep
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It really is simple. The second you take a penny from the govt in the form of welfare, you are forced to be permanently sterilized before the check hits.
couldn't agree more.
Posted on 6/19/25 at 9:45 am to moneyg
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Who thinks like this?
An indoctrinated leftist. That's who. OP needs a hard look inward.
If "we're going to uproot our lives before having children because we may need to kill one that we intentionally created" is his line of thinking, he probably needs to see a priest.
Posted on 6/19/25 at 9:45 am to moneyg
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quote: Source - We currently won’t have children in this state. When we decide to have kids we will move to a state with more liberal abortion laws in case something goes sideways. Who thinks like this?
A man, scared of taking that next step in adulthood, whose wife is pressuring him for kids because she feels that bio clock ticking.
This post was edited on 6/19/25 at 9:47 am
Posted on 6/19/25 at 9:46 am to cbree88
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Are you a member of the Chinese Communist Party or something? This is a horribly selfish and prideful attitude and line of thinking.
just a realist who sees the world falling apart around me while I subsidize idiots cranking out babies who will be a further drain on society.
Posted on 6/19/25 at 9:46 am to Odysseus32
Absolutely no one that isnt having kids is doing it because of abortion.
Birth rates are falling because of culture and the degradation of the importance of marriage.
Marriage has become more of a status symbol than a foundation for our society.
People get married for money and/or looks.
Birth rates are falling because of culture and the degradation of the importance of marriage.
Marriage has become more of a status symbol than a foundation for our society.
People get married for money and/or looks.
Posted on 6/19/25 at 9:47 am to GreenRockTiger
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those TVs cost like $200-$300 - cheaper than an abortion
Maybe you should upgrade the incentive to an iPhone
thats fair. It's negotiable.
Posted on 6/19/25 at 9:47 am to Odysseus32
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Source - We currently won’t have children in this state. When we decide to have kids we will move to a state with more liberal abortion laws in case something goes sideways.
You and your wife are acting like faggots and you’re the problem.
Posted on 6/19/25 at 9:47 am to billjamin
Damn I was gone for 20 minutes yall really took to this
Posted on 6/19/25 at 9:48 am to Odysseus32
You are welcome
Posted on 6/19/25 at 9:48 am to Odysseus32
Murdering children is such a bizarre thing to defend.
Posted on 6/19/25 at 9:50 am to Riverside
Yeah you’re absolutely right.
The real gems are the guys guzzling monsters on their way to fall off a roof.
The real gems are the guys guzzling monsters on their way to fall off a roof.
Posted on 6/19/25 at 9:53 am to Odysseus32
quote:This is a straw argument as 99% of abortions are just because the people don't want the baby.
My angle is that people are less likely to have children in a state where if something goes wrong more than 10 weeks in they can’t handle the situation without risking the mother’s life.
Posted on 6/19/25 at 9:55 am to billjamin
quote:however the people you are hoping will get abortions already get free birth control that they don’t use
thats fair. It's negotiable.
So what makes you think they would be bribed into having an abortion?
Posted on 6/19/25 at 9:56 am to Odysseus32
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Yeah we’re pretty in agreement that we should leave the state if we have children
You can leave now. Why wait? Please go
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I’m college educated
yet still dumb as frick
Posted on 6/19/25 at 9:57 am to Odysseus32
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My angle is that people are less likely to have children in a state where if something goes wrong more than 10 weeks in they can’t handle the situation without risking the mother’s life.
Be specific here. What situation would arise in this scenario that would necessitate being remedied with an actual abortion.
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Source - We currently won’t have children in this state. When we decide to have kids we will move to a state with more liberal abortion laws in case something goes sideways.
Define goes sideways.
This post was edited on 6/19/25 at 10:08 am
Posted on 6/19/25 at 9:58 am to billjamin
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just a realist who sees the world falling apart around me while I subsidize idiots cranking out babies who will be a further drain on society.
That’s what authoritarian Nazi and Communist regimes and their supporters said durign the 1st half of the 20th century.
Just saying
This post was edited on 6/19/25 at 9:59 am
Posted on 6/19/25 at 9:58 am to GreenRockTiger
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So what makes you think they would be bribed into having an abortion?
If you find the right incentive i bet they would. Maybe its a free set of rims or a voucher for some tattoos or cigarettes. Maybe a get out of a meth charge free card. IDC just make it cheaper to the tax payers than a lifetime of welfare for the kid. Thats before we get into the cost/benefits of one less high probability criminal.
Posted on 6/19/25 at 10:01 am to Scruffy
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Texas abortion law allows abortions only when the pregnant person's life is in danger due to a medical emergency. This means a life-threatening physical condition aggravated by, caused by, or arising from the pregnancy, where there is a serious risk of death or substantial impairment of a major bodily function. There are no exceptions for rape, incest, or fetal abnormalities.
I would actually be shocked if every state does not have a law similar to the one referenced. It has always been argued that calling abortion healthcare because of the examples of when the mother's life is in danger was the BS strawman argument because of the protections that are already in place at the state level for these circumstances.
If OP really wants to flex that intelligence, he needs to have a conversation with his wife's OB and get an understanding of how her Dr and the facility would treat them in this type of scenario instead of posting this to the OT.
Posted on 6/19/25 at 10:03 am to billjamin
quote:two years of welfare, food stamps, wic, free healthcare, discounted housing, help with child care, and a slew of other government freebies seems to beat out any other incentive you could offer
If you find the right incentive i bet they would.
Looks like problem may be with another entity altogether
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