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re: Orleans parish trash collection reduced to once a week - news released Saturday, October 9

Posted on 10/11/21 at 10:40 am to
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
146214 posts
Posted on 10/11/21 at 10:40 am to
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Because wage costs are going up, but the city is insisting on paying the same contact price.


Too bad too sad.....a contract is a contract

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These companies have decided that slow-rolling the city makes more sense as they know the city really isn't going to sue them / punish them.


They will when it's time to renew contracts.....Metro and Richards isnt the only game in town
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
146214 posts
Posted on 10/11/21 at 10:41 am to
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Yeh this is an issue everywhere, and it isn’t on the city. It’s on private companies who can’t find employees



Exactly...like I stated the other day.....even fricking Taco Bell is paying $15/hour starting out

Thats just crazy.....
Posted by vistajay
Member since Oct 2012
2495 posts
Posted on 10/11/21 at 10:44 am to
This is actually a very sensible move that should have been done weeks ago. Everyone knows the trash was not getting picked up more than once a week, but you didn't know when it was gong to be picked up so you had to leave trash on the curb continuously. Now, at least, you know it will come once a week and when it will come. Assuming this works of course. I'll find out tomorrow.
Posted by NOLA Tiger
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2006
824 posts
Posted on 10/11/21 at 10:52 am to
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It's not the city's fault the third party trash collectors cant find the employees.....


Its the city's fault it has gotten to this point.
Its the city's fault that it gave a contract to a company without the wherewithal to perform its contract (Metro).
Its the city's fault it hasn't made a claim on the performance bond to replace Metro and anyone else who can't perform its obligations under the sanitation contracts.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 10/11/21 at 11:10 am to
Missed in this thread is that Metro is now "bankrupt" and the city is being sued over some non-payment issues to the lien holder.

This shitshow is a long way from over.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37081 posts
Posted on 10/11/21 at 11:12 am to
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Too bad too sad.....a contract is a contract


Not saying they are wrong... someone always takes the risk in a contract. But that's why we are where we are.

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They will when it's time to renew contracts.....Metro and Richards isnt the only game in town


A few well placed bribes will solve that issue.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
146214 posts
Posted on 10/11/21 at 11:19 am to
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Its the city's fault it has gotten to this point.
Its the city's fault that it gave a contract to a company without the wherewithal to perform its contract (Metro).
Its the city's fault it hasn't made a claim on the performance bond to replace Metro and anyone else who can't perform its obligations under the sanitation contracts.




Ok.....

That has nothing to do with the 3rd party garbage collection companies not being able to find employees
Posted by The Goon
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2008
1243 posts
Posted on 10/11/21 at 11:19 am to
Will debris be picked up on magazine street? For an area that is dependent on shopping and tourism, it’s an embarrassment.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
26982 posts
Posted on 10/11/21 at 11:22 am to
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Where'd they go?


Tossed in the river.

New guys from Jersey are inbound. They want cash though. Weird??
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
25979 posts
Posted on 10/11/21 at 11:22 am to
Trash Phase Twooooooo Mo now back to Phase 1
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
5872 posts
Posted on 10/11/21 at 11:23 am to


the real stinker in this thread is. "the stink of 6 day old seafood waste"
Posted by NOLA Tiger
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2006
824 posts
Posted on 10/11/21 at 11:23 am to
SDT doesn't seem to be having any trouble finding employees
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
146214 posts
Posted on 10/11/21 at 11:27 am to
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SDT doesn't seem to be having any trouble finding employees



Neither does River Parish, their business stinks...but it's picking up
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37081 posts
Posted on 10/11/21 at 11:36 am to
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SDT doesn't seem to be having any trouble finding employees


Does the city require Metro et al to have certain requirements for hiring employees, like so many minorities, so much rate of pay, etc?
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90570 posts
Posted on 10/11/21 at 11:46 am to
Why does it need to be more than once?

Trash only picks up once a week here and always has. How much garbage do you people go through down there?
Posted by glassman
Next to the beer taps at Finn's
Member since Oct 2008
116108 posts
Posted on 10/11/21 at 11:47 am to
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you people




My days are Tuesday and Friday. Looks like I'm just a Tuesday.
Posted by NOLA Tiger
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2006
824 posts
Posted on 10/11/21 at 12:47 pm to
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Does the city require Metro et al to have certain requirements for hiring employees, like so many minorities, so much rate of pay, etc?


I don't think there was a rate of pay requirement b/c metro had employees striking over pay a year ago.
Also Latoya had a presser at the beginning of the year on changing the city's procurement process to help minority owned businesses, so probably no requirement there when the contact was awarded.
So how did Jimmie Woods get the contract?
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
146214 posts
Posted on 10/11/21 at 12:59 pm to
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September 28, 2021







Metro Service Group Update on Sanitation Collections



I’d like to take this opportunity to provide you with an update on what we at Metro Service Group have been doing to address the driver shortage our company and all sanitation companies in many parts of the country have been facing through Covid, and now, locally, since Hurricane Ida. While we have had significant shortages and delays, based on the tonnage of waste we have collected since September 2nd, (approximately 6500 tons) and the average number of trucks we have in the field each day to run our routes, I believe and am hopeful that we have turned the corner and are getting back into a routine that is reliable and consistent.



Again, let me apologize to you and your family for the frustrations may you have likely had regarding the delays in collecting your household waste. Nothing disappoints the Metro team more than being behind on our routes and adding to your frustrations, especially in these very challenging times.

If you’ve seen the news or watched city council meetings you know our challenges are the same as many cities and sanitation companies are having nationwide. New Orleans and Metro Service Group are not alone in this regard. Regionally, Jefferson Parish and Baton Rouge have been struggling with these same problems. While this likely won’t make you feel any better about what is happening locally, it does help provide needed context that many people have overlooked or ignored.



The root of the problem is an absence of drivers rather than an absence of “hoppers” for each truck. By law, all drivers must meet certain standards, have a commercial driver’s license and pass company tests to qualify for employment. The pool of interested and qualified applicants is limited at the beginning of the employment process. Still, as a testament to the good work of our hoppers, we were recently able to increase their pay (as we were able to do for drivers several months ago), and we are pleased to have done so.



We also continue to be challenged by the impact of Covid. While we have encouraged our drivers to become vaccinated some have chosen not to and periodically Covid results in unexpected short staffing. Hurricane Ida has also displaced many of our employees who are slow to return to the city and the workplace. Prior to Ida and despite the pandemic, Metro had made significant progress in on-time pick-ups over the past 3-4 months. Complaints to Metro and the city’s 311 line had dropped and we were positioned to fully turn the corner and get back to high performance business as usual.



Lastly and related directly to Ida is the sheer volume of waste to be collected. Not since Hurricane Katrina has the volume been higher, helping to make a perfect storm of challenges that we and all the local sanitation companies in Orleans and around south Louisiana are struggling to overcome. Prior to the City taking belated action to open a convenient waste transfer station – an action we and the other local sanitation contractors requested --- our trucks were forced to halt collections every few blocks and make a 2-3 hour trip to the city’s Avondale landfill to offload, tying up valuable time that could be spent collecting your trash.



Broadly, these are the steps we have taken to restore timely pick-up in your neighborhood:

• As far back as mid 2020, Metro was seeking sub-contractor assistance from other local, regional and national sanitation contractors, however, faced with their own staffing challenges, support was not available. This fact is verified by City of New Orleans Deputy Chief Administrative Officer Ramsey Green even as recently as last week: “We have continued to bring all available resources to bear to rid our neighborhoods of trash. Our first attempt at contracting out additional support received no responsive bidders for Service Area 2 despite a national call for help.”


• We increased the starting hourly rate for truck drivers to $17 per hour, as well as for our certified diesel mechanics with hourly rates up to $46 per hour, technicians with hourly rates up to $28 per hour and tire repair personnel with hourly rates up to $30 per hour;


• We have increased hopper pay in recognition of their hard work and value to us and the community;


• We have brought in trucks from our Mississippi operations and housed workers in local hotels to assist with the routes;


• We have subcontracted at our own expense with another waste management company to assist with employee shortages. In point of fact, we pay our outside contractor more than the city pays us;


• We entered into a partnership with the Louisiana WorkForce Commission and the City of New Orleans Job One Program, that will assist with employment recruiting and advertising, CDL licensure and diesel mechanic certifications;


• We have implemented a hiring bonus program for new employees.


While I personally know that having missed or delayed trash pick-ups is not acceptable for any resident, I thank you for your patience and pledge that we will continue to aggressively work through these challenges.
Posted by NOLA Tiger
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2006
824 posts
Posted on 10/11/21 at 1:21 pm to
That PR release is garbage. If you read the lawsuit against the city of New Orleans by the creditor of Metro (McCormick 101) you find out that the city has been aware of Metro's default on almost $20MM in promissory notes. That's in addition to their federal tax liens, including one for at least $500K.
Posted by boxcarbarney
Above all things, be a man
Member since Jul 2007
22729 posts
Posted on 10/11/21 at 1:25 pm to
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It's not the city's fault the third party trash collectors cant find the employees.....



So its not the city's fault for not holding these third parties to their contractual obligations? Granted, I probably don't understand the intricacies of city trash collection contracts well enough. But its interesting that right next door in Jefferson Parish, our trash collectors haven't missed a day since the hurricane.
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