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re: Organized Crime Loopholes
Posted on 9/27/18 at 8:23 am to forever lsu30
Posted on 9/27/18 at 8:23 am to forever lsu30
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Posted on 9/27/18 at 8:24 am to forever lsu30
I don't think throwing the word hypothetically in there will throw off the cops 
Posted on 9/27/18 at 8:59 am to forever lsu30
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For instance, we have laws that prevent surveillance of certain locations i.e. Churches, Doctor's offices, & even attorney client privilege.
So, why don't mob guys meet each other in churches
You don't think La Cosa Nostra has had tentacles in the Catholic church and used its facilities for decades, probably over a century?
I thought that had been all but verified?
Posted on 9/27/18 at 10:08 am to gumbo2176
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Because the collective IQ of most mob gangs is about equivalent to a C average high schooler.
Depends on how you measure IQ
While perhaps not book smart, they more than compensate with street smarts.
I know one of the brains behind Capone's operation in Chicago and would have gone far at IBM but was limited by the economic constraints of birth and youth.
Posted on 9/27/18 at 10:15 am to forever lsu30
Listen to Crimetown Podcast. It's a good one
Posted on 9/27/18 at 10:39 am to forever lsu30
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For instance, we have laws that prevent surveillance of certain locations
There are no cameras at Chili's restaurants either. Why not conduct business while enjoying some frosty margs and skillet hot queso?
Posted on 9/27/18 at 10:44 am to forever lsu30
Well, if I accepted this post, in a court of law
they could prove that I have knowledge of his whereabouts. Now you just be patient, Kay he'll get in touch with you, alright.
they could prove that I have knowledge of his whereabouts. Now you just be patient, Kay he'll get in touch with you, alright.
Posted on 9/27/18 at 10:47 am to Cheese Grits
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I know one of the brains behind Capone's operation in Chicago
Wouldn't they be damn near 110-120 now???
This post was edited on 9/27/18 at 10:48 am
Posted on 9/27/18 at 10:53 am to MoarKilometers
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Wouldn't they be damn near 110-120 now???
What’s it to you wise guy
Posted on 9/27/18 at 10:56 am to MoarKilometers
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Wouldn't they be damn near 110-120 now???
never ask a mobster how old he is, that's a sure ticket for getting fitted for a concrete overcoat and sleeping with the fishes
Posted on 9/27/18 at 11:39 am to Cheese Grits
quote:Capone ceased to run the Chicago Unit when he went to Federal Prison in Atlanta in 1932. When he was released in ‘39, he went to the hospital for treatment of his advanced syphillis and wasn’t any kind of mobster from then until his death in 1947.
I know one of the brains behind Capone's operation in Chicago
Your acquaintance was at least 30 years-old in 1932? He’s now 116?
Posted on 9/27/18 at 11:42 am to forever lsu30
A lot of organized crime has gone "legal" which is probably a lot less stressful.
Most criminals are stupid.
Are you an investigator of some type trying to break your first case or something?
Most criminals are stupid.
Are you an investigator of some type trying to break your first case or something?
Posted on 9/27/18 at 11:46 am to Cheese Grits
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Depends on how you measure IQ While perhaps not book smart, they more than compensate with street smarts.
Oh, no doubt many of them have street smarts, at least the ones who manage to not get whacked for dumb shite.
I've watched a lot of crime shows over the years and remember listening to tapes of John Gotti when the FBI had him on a wiretap and the guy was a fricking idiot. He would say something about mob business and a couple minutes later, he would repeat it---often more that 2 times.
One of the feds that were involved in taping him during their investigation said he was the single most ignorant choice to run a mob family due to his big mouth and all the things the gathered as evidence from his taped conversations.
Posted on 9/27/18 at 11:57 am to MoarKilometers
Yup, my grandparents would be in their 120's and 130's if they were still alive. The person was godfather to one of my parents siblings. I am no spring chicken.
Posted on 9/27/18 at 12:01 pm to soccerfüt
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He’s now 116?
He has been dead for ages - died from natural causes - but was long time friend with my grandfather. He was godfather to one of his children.
Posted on 9/27/18 at 12:03 pm to gumbo2176
John Gotti was a street level guy
Joe Kennedy was pretty damn smart
Meyer Lanskey was pretty damn smart
Biggest problem with the modern mob was letting drugs get in. Old guys were smart enough to know this would dumb down the choices made for short term profits over long term viability.
Joe Kennedy was pretty damn smart
Meyer Lanskey was pretty damn smart
Biggest problem with the modern mob was letting drugs get in. Old guys were smart enough to know this would dumb down the choices made for short term profits over long term viability.
Posted on 9/27/18 at 12:09 pm to JakeTheTiger
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Things you tell your lawyer are confidential. Things you tell your lawyer while a third-party is present are not confidential. Lawyers also can't help clients commit crimes. If lawyer believes the client is obtaining information or advice for the purpose of committing a crime, the lawyer must withdraw immediately.
Michael Cohen and Robert Muller must have skipped that day of law school.
Posted on 9/27/18 at 12:15 pm to Cheese Grits
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Biggest problem with the modern mob was letting drugs get in. Old guys were smart enough to know this would dumb down the choices made for short term profits over long term viability.
Narcotics was a thing of the future. If they didn't get a cut of that action, they would have lost everything they worked for. Not right away, but in 10-15 years.
Posted on 9/27/18 at 12:16 pm to forever lsu30
Those places are still bugged. Your assumption here is the law is ethical. They are not. They collected data from those safe zones you speak of to formulate a strategy. Yes, they can't use it in court, but the law doesn't care.
Posted on 9/27/18 at 1:11 pm to Bestbank Tiger
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Narcotics was a thing of the future.
They had been putting cocaine in Coke - Cola since the 1800's. Coke is still a viable company today because of common acceptance of Cocaine. As massive as Coke is today, fascinating that for 60 years of their history, they never raised the price once. My grandfather as a kid talked about going to the corner store and getting a dope.
Alcohol was profitable both before prohibition and since
Tobacco has been profitable since the first crops were shipped to England for sale
The base business that was illegal at the time would have continued because humans are willing to sidestep the "lesser" crimes such as gambling and "insurance" and it has humored me often that many of the former mob businesses are now corporate businesses or government businesses. Usury when I was younger was 6% yet today banks - at historic low fed rates - still continue to charge 18% to 22% on credit card debt. The numbers game of my youth was peanuts compared to the lotteries operated by governments today.
People "insured" protection from within their own immigrant sub groups because they could not get protection from actual law enforcement. This protection rackets exist today for modern rising immigrant populations from Russians in a post Cold War era.
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