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Opinions on Asymptomatic COVID transmission- I’m calling a BS in this

Posted on 7/16/20 at 7:50 am
Posted by Covingtontiger77
Member since Dec 2015
12302 posts
Posted on 7/16/20 at 7:50 am
Asymptomatic transmitters is bullshite.


Are you telling me that if I have the virus and I have no symptoms that my viral load is high enough to escape in my normal course of breathing to adversely effect someone else?!?! horseshite.

If the viral load is not enough to make me sick than how the frick am I going to expel a high enough load to someone else?
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 7/16/20 at 7:53 am to
You may be confusing asymptomatic with presymptomatic.

There is 1-2 days before a person becomes really sick that they have high viral loads and can be infectious. Technically at that time they are asymptomatic but capable of infecting others. That’s why I think this virus keeps spreading.
Posted by heatom2
At the plant, baw.
Member since Nov 2010
13108 posts
Posted on 7/16/20 at 7:55 am to
I'm sure you have impressive degrees from accredited universities and would be willing to share your research.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
57607 posts
Posted on 7/16/20 at 7:57 am to
You don't know what you're talking about, but you might accidentally be right.

A virus that causes no symptoms in me can be transmitted from me to you and make you sick. This is science and cannot be refuted, so you are wrong.

However, all else being equal, asymptomatic people are obviously less likely to spread the virus because they are not coughing and sneezing. The key is "all else being equal". Symptomatic people are more likely to isolate at home or in a hospital, so that reduces their transmission rate. This is why the virus will likely become less deadly. The bad strains force people to stay at home where they don't infect many others, while the less deadly strains are carried about by asymptomatic (or lightly symptomatic) folks who infect others and build herd immunity to all strains.
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
20431 posts
Posted on 7/16/20 at 7:57 am to
I agree with your premise and don’t know why you are getting downvoted on here. Also agree with the Presymptomatic premise of the other poster. Fact of the matter is that no one is applying science or common sense to what they are spouting since this whole thing started. The mask bullshite is probably the best example of this.
Posted by heatom2
At the plant, baw.
Member since Nov 2010
13108 posts
Posted on 7/16/20 at 7:58 am to
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Fact of the matter is that no one is applying science or common sense to what they are spouting since this whole thing started. The mask bullshite is probably the best example of this.




So there is no scientific research on the use of masks to slow the spread of disease?
Posted by stelly1025
Lafayette
Member since May 2012
10391 posts
Posted on 7/16/20 at 8:00 am to
I was in quarantine with and had biblical marital relations with my asymptomatic Covid infected wife and somehow did not contract it. Test was negative and showed no antibodies. She tested positive and had antibodies.
This post was edited on 7/16/20 at 8:01 am
Posted by tigertyler
Bogie's
Member since Sep 2016
851 posts
Posted on 7/16/20 at 8:00 am to
quote:

Asymptomatic transmitters is bullshite.


Are you telling me that if I have the virus and I have no symptoms that my viral load is high enough to escape in my normal course of breathing to adversely effect someone else?!?! horseshite.

If the viral load is not enough to make me sick than how the frick am I going to expel a high enough load to someone else?



This is the exact reason herpes is rampant
Posted by lnomm34
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2009
12702 posts
Posted on 7/16/20 at 8:01 am to
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Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
30979 posts
Posted on 7/16/20 at 8:02 am to
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I'm sure you have impressive degrees from accredited universities and would be willing to share your research.
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Opinions on Asymptomatic COVID transmission- I’m calling a BS in this
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Opinions on Asymptomatic COVID transmission
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Opinions on Asymptomatic COVID
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Opinions


Obviously OP isn't white because he doesn't value objectivity, rationality, and the scientific method. Remember, opinions and feelings are the only things that matter now
Posted by Vood
Member since Dec 2007
8623 posts
Posted on 7/16/20 at 8:05 am to
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So there is no scientific research on the use of masks to slow the spread of disease?


I laugh every time i see someone wearing a paper/cloth mask and then get very close to someone thinking they are actually stopping the spread of COVID.

IMHO these useless masks are making things worse because it gives people the false sense of security. Physical Distancing works 100X better than non-N95 mask. People ignore this and get very close thinking they are helping.

If you want to help, just stay away from people.
This post was edited on 7/16/20 at 8:06 am
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25964 posts
Posted on 7/16/20 at 8:09 am to
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So there is no scientific research on the use of masks to slow the spread of disease?


Nothing with strong evidence. It's assumptive and based on decent evidence of stopping the presumed mechanism of spread.

No good evidence that retarding this mechanism truly reduces infections.

So...mostly based on faith and the "common sense" that a mask will collect droplets.



Edit to add: Love the downvotes. Actually search the literature and previous publications, as recently as October 2019, from the WHO.

Quick citations: Article published in May in the CDC's own journal.

See page 14 of WHO's flu pandemic guidance. (And I believe this might be a recently updated/edited version of this document. I think that the quality of evidence went from "very low" to "moderate" here in the last month since the big push. Maybe someone better at internet history can confirm that. Regardless...admits to "lack of effectiveness in reducing influenza transmission."

This post was edited on 7/16/20 at 9:08 am
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54881 posts
Posted on 7/16/20 at 8:09 am to
quote:

Asymptomatic transmitters is bullshite
I think who already said this. However, some people confuse asymptomatic with mildly symptomatic or pre symptomatic. Those with mild symptoms or that have not started showing symptoms already are able to transmit.
This post was edited on 7/16/20 at 8:12 am
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 7/16/20 at 8:29 am to
Random retard on the OT > actual medical experts.
Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
7927 posts
Posted on 7/16/20 at 8:34 am to
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
18126 posts
Posted on 7/16/20 at 8:34 am to
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Covingtontiger77


If you wouldn't share baseless, ignorant opinions on social media, people wouldn't know how fricking stupid you are.
Posted by crazyLSUstudent
391 miles away from Tiger Stadium
Member since Mar 2012
6207 posts
Posted on 7/16/20 at 8:35 am to
Mine posting your peer reviewed study concluding the same thing. Also, please post your degree in virology or epidemiology. Preferably a doctorate.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21849 posts
Posted on 7/16/20 at 8:37 am to
quote:

I'm sure you have impressive degrees from accredited universities and would be willing to share your research.


Meh, this board has a hard time believing the "experts" with impressive degrees from accredited universities too.

I doubt that would move the needle on the OT even if it were true .
Posted by qwerpoiu
Member since Jul 2008
730 posts
Posted on 7/16/20 at 8:41 am to
[link=(NEJM)]https://www.nejm.org/doi/pdf/10.1056/NEJMp2006372?articleTools=true[/link]
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
22358 posts
Posted on 7/16/20 at 8:41 am to
unless there are new studies, all the existing studies indicate asymptomatic people do transmit the disease to others in any measurable amounts.
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