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re: "Open letter to my students" by Jessica Lifshitz. What does this mean?
Posted on 3/5/15 at 4:22 pm to LSU1NSEC
Posted on 3/5/15 at 4:22 pm to LSU1NSEC
(me as a 5th grader)
Will the test tell me that I can be a secret agent if my parents and all immediately family dies? I'm down.
Will the test tell me that I can be a secret agent if my parents and all immediately family dies? I'm down.
This post was edited on 3/5/15 at 4:23 pm
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Posted on 3/5/15 at 4:30 pm to upgrayedd
quote:This is one of the most idiotic statements. If only we could live in a world where nobody was ever taught anything. That would be just great. I'm sure you are a super being that could learn everything you need to know on your own without any instruction.
This is why those who can't do, teach.
By the way, Common Core has nothing to do with this. Higher standards has nothing to do with it. These test are to benefit the people that created them and make money off of them. That is why there is a fuss over them. It is not making better students. If anything, it is taking away from instruction the students should be getting instead of weeks preparing for it, and then a full week of taking it. This teacher sees first hand the effects on her students of over testing, and she is what we need more of. Maybe she shouldn't have put it the way she did, but it's b/c she cares about her students. I'll take that teacher for my kids over the one waiting for pay day to roll around. Posted on 3/5/15 at 4:31 pm to upgrayedd
You dumb.
Posted on 3/5/15 at 4:45 pm to WFTiger
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Maybe she shouldn't have put it the way she did, but it's b/c she cares about her students
She absolutely shouldn't have put it that way. There are certain things you have to do in life that you don't want to do or agree with but you have to do it anyway. Pissing and moaning about it to your students doesn't do anyone any good.
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I'll take that teacher for my kids over the one waiting for pay day to roll around.
I would rather a teacher that gives my kids a does of reality. But, of course, most teachers aren't familiar with that concept.
Posted on 3/5/15 at 4:52 pm to upgrayedd
quote:Reality is that a bunch of politicians are dictating what and how the teachers should teach and what and how the students should learn.
I would rather a teacher that gives my kids a does of reality. But, of course, most teachers aren't familiar with that concept.
Posted on 3/5/15 at 4:55 pm to WFTiger
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Reality is that a bunch of politicians are dictating what and how the teachers should teach and what and how the students should learn.
How is that any different from the last 60 years? Guess what, politicians dictate what I do and how I do it too. Does it suck? Yes. Do I agree with it? No. Is me bitching about it going to change the current situation? No. So what's the point of complaining? Shut up, do it, and try to change the system.
Posted on 3/5/15 at 5:05 pm to LSU1NSEC
We need to give Jessica a break. She must be new the USA because if she had been here she would know that these students have already had tests like high-stakes assessments. Although the tests were based on different standards, had different names (I think ISAT in Illinois), and were likely not done on the computer, everything else is pretty much the same.
We should also excuse Jessica for not knowing behavioral research that has shown that establishing low expectations for students increases the likelihood of low outcomes.
We must also forgive Jessica for not knowing that it would have probably been more effective to sit down with her students and give them this same message rather than publishing it in The Huffington Post. In fact, if her fifth-grade students got this message from The Huffington Post (or any other news source for that matter) than they are probably pretty bright.
We should also excuse Jessica for not knowing behavioral research that has shown that establishing low expectations for students increases the likelihood of low outcomes.
We must also forgive Jessica for not knowing that it would have probably been more effective to sit down with her students and give them this same message rather than publishing it in The Huffington Post. In fact, if her fifth-grade students got this message from The Huffington Post (or any other news source for that matter) than they are probably pretty bright.
This post was edited on 3/5/15 at 5:06 pm
Posted on 3/5/15 at 5:05 pm to upgrayedd
quote:What is going on today is very different. What is going on today is different from 5 years ago much less 60. And I'm not a "shut up and do it" kind of person. If I think something is wrong, I'm going to tell you it's wrong. But I guess those that can't lead just shut up and do what their told.
How is that any different from the last 60 years? Guess what, politicians dictate what I do and how I do it too. Does it suck? Yes. Do I agree with it? No. Is me bitching about it going to change the current situation? No. So what's the point of complaining? Shut up, do it, and try to change the system.
Posted on 3/5/15 at 5:06 pm to LSU1NSEC
Wtf. She must be a shitty teacher if she thinks her kids are too stupid to pass.
Posted on 3/5/15 at 5:08 pm to 4cubbies
Posted on 3/5/15 at 5:09 pm to LSU1NSEC
Setting those expectations dooms the kids to failure.
This teacher is an idiot.
This teacher is an idiot.
Posted on 3/5/15 at 5:11 pm to LSU1NSEC
Glad to see she thinks so little of her children. And you know her day would be ruined if her kids actually did well on the test.
Posted on 3/5/15 at 5:15 pm to CajunAlum Tiger Fan
quote:Not to mention, these sort of testing is nothing new to the students. She has either been living under a rock for the last 10 years or she must think her students are so low they don't remember the last couple years of testing.
Setting those expectations dooms the kids to failure.
This teacher is an idiot.
Or most likely, she is just an attention-seeker.
Posted on 3/5/15 at 5:17 pm to WFTiger
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If I think something is wrong, I'm going to tell you it's wrong.
Just like this dumbass teacher. I'm sure her kids did so well on their tests after her defeatist, ho-hum, woe-is-me speech.
You can disagree and protest all you want but at the end of the day you are going to have to do certain things. If you want to change something, I support it, but you have to deal in current realities. This teacher is a prime example of someone who can't comprehend that concept.
Posted on 3/5/15 at 5:25 pm to LSU1NSEC
My guess is Ms Lifestitz should have spent a bit more time teaching, probably out diddling students and ran out if time
Posted on 3/5/15 at 5:31 pm to tigerfoot
She looks like a cross between Amy Farrah Fowler and that witch from The Wizard of Oz. (Not the good one)
Her and her partner, Carla have been blogging about the baby they plan to adopt.
Her and her partner, Carla have been blogging about the baby they plan to adopt.
Posted on 3/5/15 at 5:34 pm to LSU1NSEC
My guess is that the teacher is retarded.
Posted on 3/5/15 at 5:37 pm to elposter
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Without knowing more, this letter kind of pisses me off. Sounds like a whiny, enabling, coddling poor excuse for a teacher. Granted I don't know the context here so I could be way off base.
Open letters are usually written for another audience than the stated and done to draw attention to the author.
Posted on 3/5/15 at 5:38 pm to Hangit
My guess is she is going to be a great mom/dad
Posted on 3/5/15 at 5:46 pm to LSU1NSEC
How many times does she have to say my guess?
She sounds 13 years old.
She sounds 13 years old.
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