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re: Only one contractor bids to remove New Orleans' confederate monuments, wants $600,000

Posted on 4/4/17 at 3:28 pm to
Posted by ellishughtiger
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Posted on 4/4/17 at 3:28 pm to
There is already a civil war museum down the street from the WW2 museum
Posted by jbgleason
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Posted on 4/4/17 at 3:29 pm to
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I don't know much about these statues as far as weight or location specifics, but lets just say it takes a full 40hr week to do this with 1 250T truck crane with 1 operator and 2 riggers plus all the necessary trucks for counter weights, statue transportation, etc etc

This could be probably done for sub 60k


Permits? Road closures and crews? Insurance? Off duty police for security and traffic control? What else am I missing?
Posted by Kramer26
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Posted on 4/4/17 at 3:30 pm to
National Guard
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
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Posted on 4/4/17 at 3:31 pm to
i have my moments

unfortunately they are far and few between
Posted by GEAUXT
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Posted on 4/4/17 at 3:33 pm to
I was talking to a friend who works in construction in the city.

He told me this is a DBE contractor. For those who don't know what that means, it basically is an affirmative action policy implemented by our wonderful city.

On every city project you have to hire a DBE business (read black). It is a giant kick back scheme. Most of these business do either no or shite work and then just sue everybody at the end of the project.

I fully expect the city to pay these people the $600k. It's all part of the game.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
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Posted on 4/4/17 at 3:34 pm to
Contractor's personal car being torched, plus public backlash potentially leading to loss of future business from supporters of keeping the statues up.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
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Posted on 4/4/17 at 3:35 pm to
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fully expect the city to pay these people the $600k. It's all part of the game.




then nothing will get done right?

so the taxpayers are paying to keep the statues?
Posted by PapaPogey
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Posted on 4/4/17 at 3:36 pm to
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Permits?


Permits/police escort/route survey is a few thousand bucks if I had to guess. Could get a little higher if power lines and street lights need to be removed by local utility companies. Again, not sure off the top of my head. Still wouldn't be a ridiculous amount of money.

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Road closures and crews?

city problem

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Insurance?

covered by crane company in bid contract

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Off duty police for security and traffic control?

city problem

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What else am I missing?


that's pretty much all of it. You could need other shite like jack and slide, or a second small picker crane, etc but it all just depends on how tight the pick would be. Could add up a bit more but IMO it wouldn't get in the same universe as 600K.


Crane size is a lot more about weight. Sometimes a 250T crane will be needed to grab a 5,000lb piece because it has the reach that a smaller crane doesn't have, even though the small crane could pick up the same object. It's all about boom length and boom angle.
This post was edited on 4/4/17 at 3:46 pm
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 4/4/17 at 3:37 pm to
Mitch is going to make sure the contractor gives all these statues the ol Saddam...





Oooooopppps!

Posted by OchoDedos
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Posted on 4/4/17 at 3:39 pm to
I heard the replacements are going to be William Jefferson, Dorothy Mae Taylor, and Eddie Compass.
Posted by DeathValley85
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 4/4/17 at 3:40 pm to
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Spike Lee statue. Keep the name Lee Circle. everyone wins.


Stan Lee***
Posted by JS87
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Posted on 4/4/17 at 3:42 pm to
I'm sure that company will be getting many friendly phone calls in the next few days
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/4/17 at 3:45 pm to
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PapaPogey


You are so clueless. Did you even read the bid? Do yourself a favor and go read the bid and educate yourself on what the contractor is responsible for then tell me you can do this job for $20k or whatever ridiculous number you mentioned.

I agree it's not a $600k job but it's not less than $100k either.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 4/4/17 at 3:45 pm to
quote:

quote:
Spike Lee statue. Keep the name Lee Circle. everyone wins.


Stan Lee***



Harry Lee

Posted by kengel2
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Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 4/4/17 at 3:46 pm to
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I was talking to a friend who works in construction in the city.

He told me this is a DBE contractor. For those who don't know what that means, it basically is an affirmative action policy implemented by our wonderful city.

On every city project you have to hire a DBE business (read black). It is a giant kick back scheme. Most of these business do either no or shite work and then just sue everybody at the end of the project.



That's just part of the game. I bet, including the people here, that most of them have their wives as the owner of their companies because it qualifies them for more projects.

Just think what a veteran minority woman owned company qualifies for?

Just a part of the game man.
Posted by PapaPogey
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 4/4/17 at 3:47 pm to
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Did you even read the bid?


no, nor do I care to. I'm just roping off prices to do the actual job outside of the other bullshite that is probably mentioned in the bid. I said several times that I don't know the size of these things or a have a clue where they're even at. I'm just having some fun crunching numbers from what I remember about the industry.

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You are so clueless


then tell us bub, how much will it cost?

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$20k or whatever ridiculous number you mentioned.

link?
This post was edited on 4/4/17 at 3:50 pm
Posted by LSUFanHouston
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Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 4/4/17 at 3:50 pm to
540K profit might not be worth the lost business, threats, and headache.
Posted by PapaPogey
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
40523 posts
Posted on 4/4/17 at 3:53 pm to
It obviously wouldn't be that low. Hell we were doing month long plant turnarounds with multiple cranes for almost less than that bid to remove 3 fricking statues
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 4/4/17 at 3:56 pm to
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$20k or whatever ridiculous number you mentioned.

link?



You said

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This could be probably done for sub 60k
Posted by PapaPogey
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
40523 posts
Posted on 4/4/17 at 3:58 pm to
so what's your point? You just made mine

I'm just having fun it with man to show the naive people that there's no fricking way this should cost over half a million dollars to do. Chill out
This post was edited on 4/4/17 at 4:00 pm
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