- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: Only one contractor bids to remove New Orleans' confederate monuments, wants $600,000
Posted on 4/4/17 at 3:59 pm to PapaPogey
Posted on 4/4/17 at 3:59 pm to PapaPogey
quote:
quote:
Did you even read the bid?
no, nor do I care to. I'm just roping off prices to do the actual job outside of the other bullshite that is probably mentioned in the bid. I said several times that I don't know the size of these things or a have a clue where they're even at. I'm just having some fun crunching numbers from what I remember about the industry.
And you just made mine
1
Posted on 4/4/17 at 4:01 pm to tgrbaitn08
You're such a cool guy. Congrats on the sick burn bro 
I'm sure everyone really appreciated and enjoyed your constructive criticism you brought to this thread.
I'm sure everyone really appreciated and enjoyed your constructive criticism you brought to this thread.This post was edited on 4/4/17 at 4:03 pm
Posted on 4/4/17 at 4:16 pm to ellishughtiger
When this shite first came out, Landrieu's office indicated that a possible landing place for the monuments could be in a new museum showcasing both the monuments & other Southern historical artifacts. Not mentioned near so prominently was that one of Landrieu's supporters would own, operate, and receive the revenues from this museum. As well, one of the initial bidders noted that a major issue would be to not damage the bases/monument s, as the bases have been in place forever & it would be almost impossible to get them both out the ground and undamaged. This goes way beyond simply removing the monuments themselves.
Posted on 4/4/17 at 4:18 pm to WPBTiger
For less than 600K just get some big tarps and cover them up.
Posted on 4/4/17 at 4:25 pm to PapaPogey
quote:
Insurance?
covered by crane company in bid contract
Yeah, you may know cranes, but you don't know how a contractor has to do business, especially on a government job.
And don't forget that the contractor will probably be marking up the crane pricing by 15 to 20%.
I'm sure there is a lot of unknowns as far as risk when it comes to getting the bases out of the ground. That kind of shite can get tricky in a hurry.
Posted on 4/4/17 at 4:29 pm to Keltic Tiger
quote:
When this shite first came out, Landrieu's office indicated that a possible landing place for the monuments could be in a new museum showcasing both the monuments & other Southern historical artifacts. Not mentioned near so prominently was that one of Landrieu's supporters would own, operate, and receive the revenues from this museum. As well, one of the initial bidders noted that a major issue would be to not damage the bases/monument s, as the bases have been in place forever & it would be almost impossible to get them both out the ground and undamaged. This goes way beyond simply removing the monuments themselves.
Do the monuments themselves have history or just the people they are monuments of?
What I'm saying is I know those statues aren't cheap but are they $100,000 each or more? Why not just scrap and make new ones for $600k?
Posted on 4/4/17 at 4:30 pm to Keltic Tiger
quote:
As well, one of the initial bidders noted that a major issue would be to not damage the bases/monument s, as the bases have been in place forever & it would be almost impossible to get them both out the ground and undamaged
Mitch would be heartbroken I am sure.
Posted on 4/4/17 at 4:32 pm to kengel2
quote:
Just a part of the game man.
It's all fun and games until you're a straight white single male and can't win a bid because of shite like this.
Posted on 4/4/17 at 4:32 pm to notiger1997
We held a BIG insurance amount to cover our asses (actually owned our own insurance company)You're correct though, I'm not positive about government jobs as most of what I was doing was industrial. I was just spitballing some facts about pricing and whatnot. Theres a lot that goes into a job which can quickly pile up the bid price. This probably took weeks to bid appropriately. Site walks, route surveys, any actual ground work that requires mats (wood or poly) depending on GBP. Trucks for mat loads, rigging, counterwieight, etc. All of that stuff can change in a second and often times will. The majority of crane and rigging work on bids and out in the field and on the road is logistics. You're off on this and you could severely underbid your own work and pay the price for it. I've seen it happen.
This post was edited on 4/4/17 at 4:38 pm
Posted on 4/4/17 at 4:36 pm to baldona
quote:
Do the monuments themselves have history or just the people they are monuments of?
Only one of the monuments are actually in reference to people that died in New Orleans. It was built to memorialize a small rebellion in which 5000 Confederate veterans fought 3000 state militia and metropolitan police. 100+ were wounded and 35+ died. They basically held a coup against the existing state Reconstruction government. Its a piece of history that most in New Orleans don't know about and the Landrieu admin is adamant to erase.
Jefferson Davis died in New Orleans and there is a statue of him in the city.
PT Beauregard was a La native and died in the city.
AFAIK Lee's statue was built to memorialize the Confederacy in general.
Posted on 4/4/17 at 4:39 pm to Tiger Prawn
quote:
Harry Lee
does anyone remember him after the previews and before the movie where he shoots the cellphone out the womans hand
"don't mess with my movie!"
Posted on 4/4/17 at 4:39 pm to arseinclarse
quote:
wtf does this mean
They mean in museum that focuses on how horrible white peoples are.
Get your check book ready. They're gonna need funding for said museum.
This post was edited on 4/4/17 at 4:40 pm
Posted on 4/4/17 at 4:42 pm to NYNolaguy1
What I meant by "do the monuments themselves have history" is will anyone care if those particular monuments are damaged and have to be replaced?
People are saying the bid is to keep the monuments in good shape, but why not just move them in any means possible and replace them if necessary?
People are saying the bid is to keep the monuments in good shape, but why not just move them in any means possible and replace them if necessary?
Posted on 4/4/17 at 4:46 pm to tgrbaitn08
Kinda strange how with all the bullshite in this thread you pic the one guy that says he isn't sure what he's talking about to lay into. You got bad blood bro?
Posted on 4/4/17 at 4:48 pm to NYNolaguy1
quote:
Only one of the monuments are actually in reference to people that died in New Orleans. It was built to memorialize a small rebellion in which 5000 Confederate veterans fought 3000 state militia and metropolitan police. 100+ were wounded and 35+ died. They basically held a coup against the existing state Reconstruction government. Its a piece of history that most in New Orleans don't know about and the Landrieu admin is adamant to erase.
That's about the nicest way you can put it. It was built to commemorate a White League "victory" over the Reconstruction government.
It can be thrown to the bottom of the river for all I care.
Posted on 4/4/17 at 4:48 pm to baldona
They are historical monuments. By definition they have history. No one wants some neo artistical version of these. Have you seen what that sculptor did to the soccer player?
Posted on 4/4/17 at 4:48 pm to baldona
quote:
What I meant by "do the monuments themselves have history" is will anyone care if those particular monuments are damaged and have to be replaced
Will Mitch Landrieu care? No.
Will the people who think History needs to be remembered care? Yes.
quote:
People are saying the bid is to keep the monuments in good shape, but why not just move them in any means possible and replace them if necessary?
Because the purpose of this exercise is to erase their existence.
Moving them to another spot isn't good enough. Mitch and his ilk think these statues stand for everything reprehensible in our society and want no memory of what they stood for to remain.
Posted on 4/4/17 at 4:49 pm to Ed Osteen
I mean, I know what I'm talking about, but mentioned from the start I didn't read the bid nor do I know much about these statues. Just giving yall something to think about as far as actual crane M&O prices go and what goes along with it outside of just renting a forklift and moving this thing. But yeah, I don't really care regardless. 600K is robbery
This post was edited on 4/4/17 at 4:51 pm
Posted on 4/4/17 at 4:49 pm to PapaPogey
Maybe you finger banged his girl
Posted on 4/4/17 at 4:51 pm to chillygentilly
quote:
can be thrown to the bottom of the river for all I care.
People dying for a cause shouldn't be erased, regardless of what side you're on.
Page 7 of 11
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News