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re: One Florida Town Just Tripled Its HOA Fees To Over $3,300 A Month

Posted on 3/5/25 at 6:30 pm to
Posted by Goldensammy
Cypress, TX
Member since Jun 2016
958 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 6:30 pm to
Looks like a dump. Probably hoping folks will leave so they can then tear the shite down and redevelope.
Posted by Roberteaux
mandeville
Member since Sep 2009
6211 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 6:34 pm to
This an entire town or apartment complex?
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
120295 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 6:36 pm to
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Probably hoping folks will leave so they can then tear the shite down and redevelope.


That's what I was getting at when I asked what happens if people don't pay. There has to be a pretty obvious reason for that jump.
Posted by nes2010
Member since Jun 2014
7587 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 6:37 pm to
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The Winter Park Woods Condominiums Association told residents they were hiking fees because it owes Orange County millions for code violations, WESH reported. The rises are also to cover increased insurance costs and to meet the obligations set out in new legislation following the Surfside condo collapse in South Florida that killed 98 people in June 2021. The new law now requires structural inspections for condos more than 30 years old and additional money to be set aside for repairs.
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
12226 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 6:38 pm to
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Imagine owning your house outright and having it forclosed on over hoa fees.
When I was practicing law, I represented a COA that foreclosed on a $400K unit that was purchased for cash by a pro athlete. Guy bought it for his mom and never paid a cent of dues for like 5 years (at about $350 per month), plus fines for dangerous dogs, attorney fees for various enforcement actions, and some large emergency assessments after major flooding. He owed over $35K. State supreme court ended up voiding the foreclosure and wiping out his debt because the property manager screwed up his account ledger and it was off by like $200.

Typically when we would foreclose on a home/condo for an HOA, it was after years of legal wrangling with problem owners. And usually it meant they weren't paying their mortgage either, but the bank refused to foreclose because they didn't want to own it and pay for upkeep and HOA dues and have to try to resell it for far less than what they were owed. I think the story above was the only one we ever did that was owned outright and otherwise unencumbered. Won't lie, though--the COA board in that case was definitely seeing dollar signs and what they would have made on the resale.

ETA: It is not a good feeling trying to convince a bankruptcy judge to lift the stay so you can foreclose on an HOA debt.
This post was edited on 3/5/25 at 6:56 pm
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
12226 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 6:51 pm to
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What if you buy a house and fail to pay the HOA fees?
You get a polite phone call, then a letter, then a notice of lien, then a lawsuit, then a judgment, then a garnishment of wages.
This post was edited on 3/5/25 at 6:53 pm
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
46425 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 6:54 pm to
If the HOA violated code, why do the residents have to foot the bill?
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
19059 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 6:55 pm to
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100% of HOAs are nothing but a pyramid scheme.


I pay $90 a month and that includes:

- garbage and recycling
- quarterly brush pickup
- maintaining streets (light poles, street signs, sealing asphalt)
- if someone has an egregious yard they’ll send a letter, then mow for you if you don’t respond and charge you another month ($90). Actually never heard of it happening
- maintain neighborhood pool, complete with lifeguards in Summer, etc.
- maintain neighborhood playground
- security cameras at entrance
- organize special events like 4th of July and shutdown streets to non residents on Halloween

It’s fantastic

In fact one year I assisted with the books and it’s a really well run organization.
This post was edited on 3/5/25 at 6:57 pm
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
66950 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 7:06 pm to
Don't condos also add notorious assessments, like when a new roof is needed?
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
12226 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 7:08 pm to
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If the HOA violated code, why do the residents have to foot the bill?
The residents are the HOA. If an HOA "violates code" (whatever that means here), it is effectively doing it on behalf of the residents.

It's like saying if the NCAA screwed up, why do the schools have to pay for it. Or why do we have to pay taxes to fund government spending. Or why do the shareholders get screwed if a corporate BOD makes a business error.

The HOA doesn't own anything. Every resident owns their home/unit plus an undivided interest in the common areas.
This post was edited on 3/5/25 at 7:16 pm
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
12226 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 7:09 pm to
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Don't condos also add notorious assessments, like when a new roof is needed?
Not if they are well run. But most aren't.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30038 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 7:18 pm to
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if your HOA does anything more than cut the grass in common spaces and keep people from parking trailers in their front yard, then its a money laundering scam.


In lower-end HOA areas, this is true, but in higher-end neighborhoods, you have gates, guard shacks, guards, surveillance infrastructure, roads, electricity, water, athletic fields, meeting areas, pools, walking/running trails, insurance, et cetera.

HOAs can be very inexpensive or very expensive, depending on what amenities are provided. It is like everything in life; there are Kias, and there are Roll Royces.
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
12868 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 7:27 pm to
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Don't condos also add notorious assessments, like when a new roof is needed?


Uh, if a repair like that is needed and there aren’t sufficient funds in the association’s account, then yes there will be an assessment. Many condo owners don’t understand what they own. The overall structure is jointly owned by the unit owners. They are responsible for maintaining it.
Posted by Downeast12
Member since Jun 2022
908 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 7:35 pm to
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There are no HOA fees in my neighborhood. What if you buy a house and fail to pay the HOA fees?


Can result in foreclosure if one does not or cannot make HOA payments.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
108206 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 7:39 pm to
I am betting the facilities need a major overhaul and they are raising funds because they have squandered the money being paid into all these years.
Posted by ElderTiger
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2010
7675 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 8:28 pm to
It seems HOAs are getting out of control.
Our little neighborhood elected new officers last year and now the president is using HOA money to make repairs to his driveway.
He is in for a very rude awakening.
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
9706 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 8:37 pm to
bud there is more to the story. Our HOA carries liability insurance to protect the officers if they have a violation of the law
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
44965 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 8:42 pm to
Those old condos are a death trap. 3gs a month for upkeep is probably cheap. 36k a year is nothing. Go look at some of those Miami listing's. There is 100k in back paid maintenance fees due if you buy one. This all stems from that collapse a few years ago.
Posted by DarkDrifter
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2011
5105 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 8:56 pm to
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HOA Fees To Over $3,300 A Month


Am I getting a brick of Columbia's purest and a on call hooker with that every month??
Posted by Grievous Angel
Tuscaloosa, AL
Member since Dec 2008
10722 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 9:03 pm to
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Uh, if a repair like that is needed and there aren’t sufficient funds in the association’s account, then yes there will be an assessment. Many condo owners don’t understand what they own. The overall structure is jointly owned by the unit owners. They are responsible for maintaining it.


And that's what's turning those older high rise condos in florida upside down.

That one building that collapsed got everyone's attention, and folks are finding out their building needs major repairs.

Hence, major assessments and HOA fees.
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