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re: On Feb 13th Santa Monica is voting on a proposal that could change housing in CA forever

Posted on 2/12/24 at 1:02 pm to
Posted by Fat and Happy
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2013
18736 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 1:02 pm to
So they are forcing the owner to let people stay and basically have very little recourse as to eviction and cost increases over time
Posted by Bullfrog
Running Through the Wet Grass
Member since Jul 2010
59233 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 1:03 pm to
That is what creates slums.
Posted by holmesbr
Baton Rouge, La.
Member since Feb 2012
3587 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 1:05 pm to
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forced to ask Biden to close the border because it’s killing by their city.


Some are in the process of killing it themselves. They just lost the power they had to kill it their way.
Posted by Tigahs24Seven
Communist USA
Member since Nov 2007
13274 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 1:26 pm to
and Newsome may try to be your next President. Good times.
Posted by El Segundo Guy
SE OK
Member since Aug 2014
10922 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 1:40 pm to
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I would leave California with a quickness and sell any and all assets there.


My wife and I did 3-4 years ago or so. Even in the fairly conservative (especially for LA county) town of El Segundo, the writing was on the wall. It turned up more during covid.

I don't have anything invested in California anymore. I do have a bank account out there under the FDIC insured max amount but that's it. I should probably close it. I only really needed it when we had property there.
Posted by El Segundo Guy
SE OK
Member since Aug 2014
10922 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 1:44 pm to
And for everyone saying California sucks, yeah it does. I enjoyed my time there and El Segundo is a great little town. Fantastic place to live if you have to reside in LA county.

But they have made it so bad, I haven't gone back in 4 years and might not ever go back.
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
20260 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 1:58 pm to
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And for everyone saying California sucks, yeah it does. I enjoyed my time there and El Segundo is a great little town. Fantastic place to live if you have to reside in LA county.

But they have made it so bad, I haven't gone back in 4 years and might not ever go back.


I was there in the 90’s during my military days. Cali was horrible for costs even then.

If you retired military in Cali - and even if you moved out of state and set up legal residence in new state - Cali taxed your retirement income anyways.

So people who were going to retire and leave Cali got around it by having TAD orders cut transferring to a new state. Then retired in new state and got around paying Cali taxes on retirement.

But Cali got wise and their pols worked with military to stop the transfers to get around it. I can’t recall but I think it said you had to be stationed somewhere else for over a year and registered as resident there (in new state) for at least a year to avoid.

I was transferred out of Cali and did a full stint elsewhere so never had to worry but they tried to make me pay $1,800 for a car registered in FL while there. I beat it since I was a FL resident at that time (legally) and had to bring in proof and the $1,800 went away.

Someone should never take their last duty station in Cali else once retired and even if they move - Cali considers the retirement as having been earned in Cali and will tax it until you die.
This post was edited on 2/12/24 at 2:10 pm
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
107256 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 3:52 pm to
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And for everyone saying California sucks, yeah it does. I enjoyed my time there and El Segundo is a great little town



Born and raised in Orange County and lived there more years of my life than anywhere else. California is an awesome place, but the policies and political bullshite ruined it and has made it an unbearable place to live.
Posted by Hayekian serf
GA
Member since Dec 2020
3611 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 3:53 pm to
And this will result in less affordable housing.

Which one can only assume is their goal
Posted by Swiss Alps
Member since Feb 2024
153 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 4:16 pm to
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And with all that GDP they still can’t even pay their own bills, due to their reckless policies. Yet I’m supposed to believe they’re picking up everyone else’s tabs?

you don't know how economics work.
Posted by jbird7
Central FL
Member since Jul 2020
5606 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 8:17 pm to
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you don't know how economics work


Neither do you apparently. Along with common sense.

Enjoy your evening sweetheart
This post was edited on 2/12/24 at 8:22 pm
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
118109 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 8:28 pm to
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- If you try to buy a tenant out twice within 6 months, they can sue you.

- $20,000 per violation fee


WTF? What's wrong with trying to buy a tenant out?
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
23282 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 8:31 pm to
An old friend managed a production group in L.A. and she had a programmer employee who simply stopped working. Took months to actually fire him.
Posted by junior
baton rouge
Member since Mar 2005
2451 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 9:51 pm to
So this should drive down the demand to own these homes. Seems like that would lower the price of the homes. Wouldn’t it make homes for the residents more affordable?

Posted by nola tiger lsu
Member since Nov 2007
6276 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 9:11 am to
How much time do you spend searching things that trigger you?
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 9:27 am to
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no you don't, they pay the souths bills.


The problem with California is....Californians.

I've spent a lot of time in California....that's why I CHOOSE to live in the South.

None of us are jealous of California or Californians for that matter.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 9:35 am to
I'm just curious how california is paying the bills in the south. What does that even mean?
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 9:39 am to
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When there is nothing to rent..... you will know why...

So what are multi-unit landlords going to do? Sit on the property and continue to pay taxes and insurance without rent coming in?
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
75139 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 9:54 am to
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I'm just curious how california is paying the bills in the south. What does that even mean?


He's arguing Cali net pays the fed and Louisiana net receives from the fed.
Posted by nola tiger lsu
Member since Nov 2007
6276 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 9:55 am to
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What does that even mean?


The money paid into federal taxes and then amount used and where it is used.
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