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re: Oh no Pfizer bros. RFK just nuked MRNA vaccine development

Posted on 8/6/25 at 11:09 am to
Posted by hashtag
Comfy, AF
Member since Aug 2005
33615 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 11:09 am to
So, there is nothing in the announcement that says they are no longer doing mRNA vaccine development. The Subject of the OP is literally a lie.

They are cancelling 22 contracts that are focused on mRNA vaccines for respiratory diseases like flu and Covid. There's nothing stating that they will not be funding mRNA research into other diseases like cancer, etc.
Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
20055 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 11:09 am to
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Agree that the use of mRNA for cancer and dread diseases could prove in the future to be a first line resource in those specific controlled settings, but that mRNA used as a herd immunity approach (young and healthy, not just the elderly and co-morbidities) to Covid viruses and variants was not safe based off it never having a proven track-record of results. Then Biden mandating it after millions of breakthrough cases in the summer and fall of '21 was pure evil.


I agree with you. As I mentioned earlier, the handling of this pandemic was abysmal. We had had many outbreaks in the 20th century that were handled so efficiently that they often passed through with little notice from the public.

The way our government reacted to a new coronavirus was pathetic (the reaction would have only been appropriate if it was a new bird flu virus that had become communicable among humans). There was absolutely no need to shut down anything except limiting access to nursing homes and other senior centers. There was also no need to vaccinate the entire population.

It was just a coronavirus, FFS. It was quickly identified as a threat only to older people and anyone with a compromised immune system.
Posted by cbree88
South Louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
10485 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 11:18 am to
RFK is a fricking idiot.

mRNA technology is being used to develop vaccine treatments that could completely revolutionize cancer treatment and allow people to avoid the pain and suffering of chemotherapy and radiation therapy. Hopefully he’s not affecting that with this nonsense.

Perhaps he and the big American pharmaceutical companies don’t want that to happen, so they’re all going to pretend that they never developed the mRNA technology in the first place.
This post was edited on 8/6/25 at 11:19 am
Posted by hashtag
Comfy, AF
Member since Aug 2005
33615 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 11:24 am to
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mRNA technology is being used to develop vaccine treatments that could completely revolutionize cancer treatment and allow people to avoid the pain and suffering of chemotherapy and radiation therapy. Hopefully he’s not affecting that with this nonsense.
if all of you chicken littles would watch the video, you'd see the answer to this question.
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
9283 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 11:26 am to
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One of the ironies of the coronavirus pandemic was that the lockdown had the indirect effect of holding flu cases and deaths to the lowest number in decades.


Bless your sweet heart.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75090 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 11:43 am to
I don't know about the flu, but when shite opened back up RSV cases exploded, and it was outside of it's normal season. It ran through schools and shut a bunch down. My mom got it during that time and it took her over four months to shake it completely.
Posted by LSUA 75
Colfax,La.
Member since Jan 2019
4934 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 12:02 pm to
“The way our government reacted to a new corona virus was pathetic”

It was worse that pathetic,it was criminal,IMO.
If you would read the Pfizer Papers,Pfizer and the FDA knew within 3 months of rollout of the vaccine that it wasn’t stopping infection or transmission of the virus.
4 months after release of the vaccine they knew it was damaging hearts of young people,predominately males.

Yet they continued with the mandates,continued to promote the lie that if one took the vaccine they wouldn’t get Covid.
People lost their jobs for refusing to take the vaccine.Families and friends suffered broken relationships because some refused to take the “experimental vaccine”
Military personnel were kicked out for refusing the” vaccine “when it was known the “vax” wasn’t effective and also known it was damaging the hearts of some young men.

I know a soldier of 10:years that fought both Afghanistan and Iraq that was kicked out for refusing the “vax”.So much for his service..
I also know a young soldier with 2 children that suffered heart damage and last I talked to him was on 4 heart meds.

I’m sure Austin and Millie profited handsomely for their role in mandating the “vax”.They didn’t give a shite about our servicemen and women.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
79908 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 12:14 pm to
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Perhaps he and the big American pharmaceutical companies don’t want that to happen, so they’re all going to pretend that they never developed the mRNA technology in the first place
Why would a company that developed, say a successful mRNA therapy for breast cancer cover it up and not make the hundreds of billions it could? Why would they let European companies get ahead and make that money?
Posted by ponyman
Member since Nov 2019
504 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 12:14 pm to
ALL vaccines are toxic. That's just a fact.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75090 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 12:19 pm to
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Military personnel were kicked out for refusing the” vaccine

And now they can come back to their old position............

Just as long as they sign paperwork that says they left their position of their own volition without coercion and they do not hold the military nor the government responsible for losing their jobs.
Posted by cbree88
South Louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
10485 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 12:32 pm to
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Why would a company that developed, say a successful mRNA therapy for breast cancer cover it up and not make the hundreds of billions it could


Because chemotherapy is probably a much bigger cash cow than giving someone a vaccine.
Posted by LSUA 75
Colfax,La.
Member since Jan 2019
4934 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 12:37 pm to
It’s not quite that easy.They will get back pay for the time they were released but they have to list the jobs they held and copies of W-2’s and that will be subtracted from the back pay.
I know 2 that happened to and neither want to go back.One had 10 years so I think it would be worth it to at least go into the reserves so they won't lose those years.
That’s probably what I would have done but they don’t feel that way.
They’ve moved on with their lives and are sorta bitter about how they were dismissed after their service.
Cutting off their nose to spite their face? Maybe so.
I’ve read that very few of the 8000+ kicked out took the offer to go back.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
79908 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 12:41 pm to
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Because chemotherapy is probably a much bigger cash cow than giving someone a vaccine
So let people die of cancer or get less effective chemo in their 40s, 50s, and 60s instead of making billions on a more effective treatment and pass up on the costs of meds they'll need in their 60s, 70s and 80s?

And again, let the euro companies pass them and make the more effective therapy?
This post was edited on 8/6/25 at 12:43 pm
Posted by Lexis Dad
Member since Apr 2025
6399 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 12:50 pm to
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ALL vaccines are toxic. That's just a fact.


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ponyman

I pray for your children if God forbid you procreated.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 12:58 pm to
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mRNA technology is being used to develop vaccine treatments that could completely revolutionize cancer treatment


Is there a difference between mRNA vaccine treatment for cancer and mRNA treatment for cancer?
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8364 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 1:16 pm to
Its extremely easy to tell who on here works in medicine or at least knows how to read a scientific paper, and who doesn't. This thread is kind of a gold mine for it.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 1:54 pm to
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mRNA technology is being used to develop vaccine treatments that could completely revolutionize cancer treatment and allow people to avoid the pain and suffering of chemotherapy and radiation therapy. Hopefully he’s not affecting that with this nonsense.




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In total, this affects 22 projects worth nearly $500 million. Other uses of mRNA technology within the department are not impacted by this announcement.“Let me be absolutely clear: HHS supports safe, effective vaccines for every American who wants them. That’s why we’re moving beyond the limitations of mRNA and investing in better solutions,” said Secretary Kennedy.


LINK
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
89127 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 1:58 pm to
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What an idiot. mRNA vaccines are the safest ever. The truth about RFK, jr. is that he wants to stop vaccines altogether.


booster boy still melting
Posted by Spankum
The Sip
Member since Jan 2007
62175 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 3:42 pm to
Is he saying Trump’s beautiful shot is now illegal….off with his head!
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
21110 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 3:52 pm to
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The problem wasnt the vaxx


Debatable...

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It was forcing people to take it


Absolutely!
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