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re: Official Thread: Missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370
Posted on 3/10/14 at 3:52 pm to fillmoregandt
Posted on 3/10/14 at 3:52 pm to fillmoregandt
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If a search were to go on for, say, 5 or more years, and not one piece of debris is ever found, would we all be able to agree that something sketchy caused an entire flight to completely disappear and write off any notion that it sitting in the jungle or bottom of the ocean?
Unless it's been hijacked and sitting in a hanger somewhere, wreckage will eventually be found.
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 3:55 pm to au21tigers
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Bomb?
Just guessing from 8,000 ,iles away, but I would think so.
A plane that is hijacked will change the transponder to 7500 and that would quietly tell everyone the plane is being hijacked. If the hijcaker knew this and knew how he could disable the transponder, but it looks like no changes were made.
A door to the plane is secured. the PIC looks to have really enjoyed his job and wasn't a likely candidate to crash the plane on purpose. Also a major change in flight attitude would send out an alert.
Everything points to the pilots not knowing anything was wrong until it was too late.
A mid air break up is the most likely.
So either we assume that the Boeing built plane was not repaired properly and a wing fell off in flight (again would probably have plenty of time to send out a signal) or the plane violently exploded mid-air.
Which would mean terrorists are working on a newer stronger explosive to get past security. Remember last month another shoe bomb statement warning was issued.
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 3:56 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Unless it's been hijacked and sitting in a hanger somewhere, wreckage will eventually be found.
Pretty much. Once they find floating debris I would assume they can use ocean current readings to extrapolate about where the plane may be on the bottom. From there it's just sonar scans looking for the fuselage or trying to pick up the pinging from the boxes if that is working.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 3:58 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Unless it's been hijacked and sitting in a hanger somewhere, wreckage will eventually be found.
This.
The Gulf of Thailand were it is suspected to have disappeared/crashed crashed is relatively shallow at less than 300 feet deep.
The Air France flight crashed into 13,000 feet & was eventually found/partially recovered after a few years.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 3:58 pm to GetCocky11
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Pyongyang
sound of the metal breaking up?
too soon?
Posted on 3/10/14 at 3:59 pm to TheDoc
I would say with technology being what it is now, yes.
But, I do think something like 5 planes went missing in the Bermuda Triangle. It was maybe a training mission. Possible they all followed the leader into the water, but IIRC it was perfect weather conditions.
But, I do think something like 5 planes went missing in the Bermuda Triangle. It was maybe a training mission. Possible they all followed the leader into the water, but IIRC it was perfect weather conditions.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:01 pm to Topwater Trout
Anyone thinking this is a "Lost" senerio (like the TV show)?
Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:03 pm to TigerHam85
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Yes. The tickets were purchased through an Iranian third party, also.
strange
what if they don't find the wreckage?
is that a possibility?
Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:11 pm to TheDoc
At a minimum I think this brings home the need for some real-time flight tracking data being broadcast from commercial flights - or at least international flights that cross oceans. It is absolutely freaking ridiculous that this plane has not been found yet. I do understand why it has not been found, but we need to reject that as an acceptable outcome in 2014 when my damn phone can find itself.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:11 pm to TheDoc
As stated, it's highly, highly unlikely that if the plane crashed/exploded that something won't be found. It may take time, but it will come up.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:12 pm to TigerHam85
is it a possibility at this point that it did NOT crash?
Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:13 pm to Pax Regis
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I do understand why it has not been found, but we need to reject that as an acceptable outcome in 2014 when my damn phone can find itself.
A powered on phone in the mainland United States is definitely the same thing as a blown up plane over Asian waters.
Sheesh.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:13 pm to Pax Regis
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At a minimum I think this brings home the need for some real-time flight tracking data being broadcast from commercial flights - or at least international flights that cross oceans. It is absolutely freaking ridiculous that this plane has not been found yet. I do understand why it has not been found, but we need to reject that as an acceptable outcome in 2014 when my damn phone can find itself.
They already do - the protocol is called ADS-B. Not every plane in the world is equipped with ADS-B transponders yet, but I understand this was a fairly new 777, so my guess is that it would have been.
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:14 pm to TheDoc
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is that a possibility?
If it crashed they will find it. The area is relatively small and the water is relatively shallow.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:17 pm to RollTide1987
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The area is relatively small
Relatively small compared to what? The pacific ocean?Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:18 pm to TheDoc
I believe so.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:20 pm to LNCHBOX
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A powered on phone in the mainland United States is definitely the same thing as a blown up plane over Asian waters.
Obviously it is not, but my point is that if engineers can figure out a way to track my phone via a combination of
GPS and cellular networks then we ought to be able to figure out how to at least get flight tracking data in real time from planes via transmissions from the planes to the air traffic control towers whose control they are under.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:22 pm to LNCHBOX
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Relatively small compared to what? The pacific ocean?
The Gulf of Thailand is a mere 250 miles across. It's not that hard to spot debris from the air. I read an interview from one of the searchers that they can spot debris as small as a human hand from their aircraft flying above the sea.
Also...it's not like they are searching the entire gulf. There are only a few concentrated areas where they are looking for the aircraft.
This post was edited on 3/10/14 at 4:24 pm
Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:23 pm to Pax Regis
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to the air traffic control towers whose control they are under.
They aren't always under ATC control. This isn't a BHM to ATL flight.
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