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re: Official Thread: Missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370

Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:23 pm to
Posted by jdd48
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:23 pm to
It was relaying realtime info. You can even see the flight path as it was played on flightradar24 in
real time. It's haunting - looks as if it's trying to make a turn and then just disappears.

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Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:24 pm to
quote:

It's not that hard to spot debris from the air.


Apparently it is.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74167 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:24 pm to
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outcome in 2014 when my damn phone can find itself.


well your phone uses TVGPS. meaining it triangulates a location based on locationg multiple cell towers and knowing the time it takes for a signal to reach each one.

ADS-B is based on GPS and even though all planes have GPS, not all planes have locators tied to GPS. I don't know why.

But if you dropped your phone out of cell signal range, you would never find it.
Posted by BeerCity
Asheville, North Carolina
Member since Nov 2013
622 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:24 pm to
I guess I just thought that with technology available today all planes are tracked in real time all the way from departure to destination. I feel sure that all planes flying in the continental US are.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:24 pm to
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The pacific ocean?


or most other gulfs.
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
70987 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:25 pm to
quote:

Apparently it is.



That's because there is nothing there. They're either searching in the wrong place or something unprecedented happened to that Boeing 777.
Posted by Napoleon
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:26 pm to
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I feel sure that all planes flying in the continental US are.


by transponder. If a plane switched over to 1200 and reports VFR then they are much harder to track. Which is why even when flying GA, when you talk to the tower and ask for flight following they assign you a transponder code, which will be changed as you are handed off to other centers.

Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
70987 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:27 pm to
quote:

I guess I just thought that with technology available today all planes are tracked in real time all the way from departure to destination. I feel sure that all planes flying in the continental US are.



It was being tracked in real time by both military and civilian radar. This isn't the freaking Pacific Ocean. There were all types of radars active in this area on Friday night/Saturday morning. In some cases these radars from the different countries overlapped with one another.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
40809 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:28 pm to
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That's because there is nothing there. They're either searching in the wrong place or something unprecedented happened to that Boeing 777.



A Boeing 777 doesn't burn up like the leaves in your yard.
Posted by Happygilmore
Happy Place
Member since Mar 2009
1835 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:29 pm to
did we ever get an answer to "what if they tried to pull up into space" i dont know shite about this stuff so anything really is a possibility.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74167 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:29 pm to
quote:

A Boeing 777 doesn't burn up like the leaves in your yard.


you're right, even if every bag was filled with thermite and the fuel mixed with explosive, there would still be large sections. a tail, a door something.

Posted by Darth_Vader
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Member since Dec 2011
73395 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:30 pm to
quote:

did we ever get an answer to "what if they tried to pull up into space" i dont know shite about this stuff so anything really is a possibility.



Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74167 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:32 pm to
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id we ever get an answer to "what if they tried to pull up into space" i dont know shite about this stuff so anything really is a possibility.


A plane can only fly as long as it's wings can generate lift. If you get too high at too low a speed it cannot generate lift. If you have too steep an angle of attack it cannot generate lift.
Just because a spy plane or a blackbird can go over 60,000 does not mean any plane can. You get to a point where the plane cannot generate anymore lift.
If planes could fly into space we never would have made rockets.
So if you tried to pull a plane into space, you would stall.
A stall would cause a crash if not corrected by regaining airspeed.

This post was edited on 3/10/14 at 4:33 pm
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
15244 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:34 pm to
quote:

A plane can only fly as long as it's wings can generate lift. If you get too high at too low a speed it cannot generate lift. If you have too steep an angle of attack it cannot generate lift.
Just because a spy plane or a blackbird can go over 60,000 does not mean any plane can. You get to a point where the plane cannot generate anymore lift.
If planes could fly into space we never would have made rockets.
So if you tried to pull a plane into space, you would stall.
A stall would cause a crash if not corrected by regaining airspeed.


Maybe that's what that dipshit co-pilot on the Air France flight thought he was doing - going to the moon.
Posted by Happygilmore
Happy Place
Member since Mar 2009
1835 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:35 pm to
thank you, better than darth's response.

like i said, i dont know shite about this, i have no idea how far up space is to begin with.
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
70987 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:35 pm to
quote:

A Boeing 777 doesn't burn up like the leaves in your yard.



Obviously. Which is why I'm leaning more toward the theory that they're searching in the wrong place.
Posted by LSUJuice
Back in Houston
Member since Apr 2004
18048 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:36 pm to
I was just reading about TWA 800. Holy shite, I can't imagine being conscious in the back of the plane during this:

quote:

simulations indicated that after the loss of the forward fuselage the remainder of the aircraft continued on in crippled flight, then pitched up while rolling to the left (north),[98] climbing to a maximum altitude between 15,537 feet (4,736 m) and 16,678 feet (5,083 m)[102] from its last recorded altitude, 13,760 feet (4,190 m).[
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
73395 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:38 pm to
quote:

thank you, better than darth's response.

like i said, i dont know shite about this, i have no idea how far up space is to begin with.



Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61719 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:38 pm to
quote:

The area is relatively small and the water




This shite cracks me up.
Posted by TheIndulger
Member since Sep 2011
19395 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:39 pm to
I jokingly made that hypothesis a page or 2 ago.
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