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Posted on 3/18/14 at 12:21 pm to au21tigers
Posted on 3/18/14 at 12:24 pm to OldManRiver
I read that theory before and I thought it could possibly be true. It is convincing and conceivable.
But the more I think about it if that theory were true someone would have found it by now imo.
But the more I think about it if that theory were true someone would have found it by now imo.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 12:26 pm to OldManRiver
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theory
Correct me if I am wrong, but the redundancy in the 777 is unmatched.
I keep hearing how redundant everything is and if true, there is no way that an electrical fire would so easily take it out.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 12:28 pm to OldManRiver
It's a good read. Might have been the case but my thoery is just as good as his. It's in a hangar.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 12:29 pm to Lsut81
Nice theory....I really liked the comparison with a DC-8 in Nigeria 
This post was edited on 3/18/14 at 12:35 pm
Posted on 3/18/14 at 12:33 pm to OldManRiver
Now that is interesting.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 12:36 pm to tgrgrd00
quote:
I read that theory before and I thought it could possibly be true. It is convincing and conceivable.
But the more I think about it if that theory were true someone would have found it by now imo.
It doesn't explain why the transponder was turned off before the big left turn that he is referencing.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 12:43 pm to moneyg
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It doesn't explain why the transponder was turned off before the big left turn that he is referencing.
Actually it does, if an electrical fire is eating it's way through the planes circuits, systems will start failing one by one as the fire gets to them. Pilots may have not known when ACARS went down, but as more systems start to fail, they would become aware. Once they realized they lost more systems, they make a bee line for the nearest airport (the turn) and may have already lost the ability to communicate. At some point they became incapacitated the flight relied on auto pilot til it crashed due to the fire or ran out of gas.
The altitude changes could of been a result of losing the pressurization system.
This post was edited on 3/18/14 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 3/18/14 at 12:43 pm to OldManRiver
quote:Here's an expanded version of Chris Goodfellow's Wired article, temporarily put outside the by National Business Review paywall.
theory
In my opinion this is the first theory that makes much sense.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 12:43 pm to moneyg
quote:I think he is saying that the fire burned out the transponder before the pilots realized they had a fire. Once they did realize it (maybe most of the avianocs were going out as well), they were too busy trying to get the plane to a safe location and not communicating with the ground.
It doesn't explain why the transponder was turned off before the big left turn that he is referencing.
Hard to believe that there would not have been a mic key with SOS, fire, emergency, something to alert ground controllers (and people at the emergency landing location) know what was going on and that they were coming in.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 12:44 pm to moneyg
If the plane had a fire and was struggling at at lower altitude, it sure seems some of the cell phones would have been in use......
(based on above Theory)
(based on above Theory)
Posted on 3/18/14 at 12:47 pm to Drop4Loss
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sure seems some of the cell phones would have been in use
Not if the passengers are passed out from smoke inhalation
Posted on 3/18/14 at 12:47 pm to Drop4Loss
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If the plane had a fire and was struggling at at lower altitude, it sure seems some of the cell phones would have been in use......
(based on above Theory)
Depends on when the passengers became incapacitated. Which could of been prior to getting back over Malaysia.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 12:50 pm to PJinAtl
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Hard to believe that there would not have been a mic key with SOS, fire, emergency, something to alert ground controllers (and people at the emergency landing location) know what was going on and that they were coming in.
Depends on if the fire had already got the communication circuits. This is where there is a big problem with the theory. The fire was serious enough to take out a lot of the electrical, but autopilot survives and the plane doesn't suffer a structural failure from the fire causing the plane to crash. It continued flying for 7.5 hours. That's a long time with a fire on board.
You would need to know more about the fire suppression systems and how the electrical is done on the 777 to see if this would be plausible.
This post was edited on 3/18/14 at 12:56 pm
Posted on 3/18/14 at 12:50 pm to PJinAtl
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they were too busy trying to get the plane to a safe location and not communicating with the ground.
bullshite... They would have declared an emergency in some form or someone on board would have.
The theory does make sense and may line up, but again... All I keep hearing about is redundancy in the 777. There would be some way for them to get out a distress call.
Additionally, are the Sat phones in first class tied to all of the same communications?
Posted on 3/18/14 at 12:52 pm to Dam Guide
If there was a fire on board, would flying up to 45,000 feet and then down to 5,000 feet be something they would do to try to put out the fire somehow?
This post was edited on 3/18/14 at 12:53 pm
Posted on 3/18/14 at 12:53 pm to Lsut81
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Additionally, are the Sat phones in first class tied to all of the same communications?
If the crew is battling an electrical system problem and they are shutting off power to non critical systems, your sat phones in first class would be one of the first loads to go...
Posted on 3/18/14 at 1:00 pm to Dam Guide
quote:
If the crew is battling an electrical system problem and they are shutting off power to non critical systems, your sat phones in first class would be one of the first loads to go.
Also, authorities have 100% confirmed (As far as I have read) that the "Turn" to which the plane took was pre-programmed into the system.
The guy proposing this theory says that they did that to try to make an emergency landing. Wouldn't they be manually controlling the plane and not relying on programming in turns if they were in an emergency?
Posted on 3/18/14 at 1:02 pm to Lsut81
Also where is the plane? Why is someone hiding a plane that made an emergency landing?
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