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re: Official Thread: Missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370
Posted on 3/13/14 at 3:40 pm to jdd48
Posted on 3/13/14 at 3:40 pm to jdd48
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I'd think an ADS-B attack of some sort would be more likely than network penetration and/or systems compromise. ADS-B for commercial air traffic is completely unencrypted (even though the FAA claims otherwise; all research seems to indicate the opposite) and can be monitored with a simple $20 RTL-SDR dongle. It takes more sophisticated equipment to transmit ADS-B to confuse the aircraft, but it can definitely be done.
Check this out:
Thanks for the info
The amount of expertise/specialization on the plane was pretty high. That's what makes me raise an eyebrow.
Knowing it's possible.
Knowing the means existed.
Knowing there were many on the plane capable.
The question is: Was one or more of them willing?
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Posted on 3/13/14 at 3:42 pm to GeeOH
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Also, how do they fly this big bird there and land int he cloak of darkness without any navigational equipment.
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With one of these stuck in the cockpit window.
There are dozens of handheld battery operated aircraft GPS units, some have the capability of displaying information from instrument landing systems, but just a GPS guided approach would have been sufficient.
A friend of mine once ferried a old 727 with avionics issues cross country with an old Garmin GPS from his truck stuck to the window.
This post was edited on 3/13/14 at 3:46 pm
Posted on 3/13/14 at 3:43 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Watch it turn out to be some massive publicity stunt for a book or movie.
That would be a big bill to pay the search teams at minimum lol
Posted on 3/13/14 at 3:45 pm to EventHorizon
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hat would be a big bill to pay the search teams at minimum
Posted on 3/13/14 at 3:49 pm to EventHorizon
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Also, how do they fly this big bird there and land int he cloak of darkness without any navigational equipment.
Why wouldn't the navigational equipment on the plane be working? I thought the current theory is that the plane did not suffer any catastrophic failure/malfunction (in light of the new information being leaked by US officials about the plane flying for 4-5 additional hours).
Posted on 3/13/14 at 3:50 pm to cabinuga
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Why wouldn't the navigational equipment on the plane be working? I thought the current theory is that the plane did not suffer any catastrophic failure/malfunction (in light of the new information being leaked by US officials about the plane flying for 4-5 additional hours).
I think he meant - no guidance from the flight tower which at night would make it very difficult to land.
If the plane landed, there had to be someone on board who REALLY knew how to fly.
Posted on 3/13/14 at 3:55 pm to theunknownknight
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I think he meant - no guidance from the flight tower which at night would make it very difficult to land.
If the plane landed, there had to be someone on board who REALLY knew how to fly.
THIS pretty much....and also my thinking was that if any of that stuff was turned on onboard, it would be traceable by ground radar.
Posted on 3/13/14 at 3:56 pm to theunknownknight
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no guidance from the flight tower which at night would make it very difficult to land.
it was mentioned earlier that some airports don't have anyone in the towers late at night and planes are able to land
Posted on 3/13/14 at 3:59 pm to Topwater Trout
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it was mentioned earlier that some airports don't have anyone in the towers late at night and planes are able to land
I fly alot and have talked with several airline pilots (bc flying intrigues me). The ONE common denominator for safe flying, I was told, was having a good flight tower in constant communication during takeoff and landing.
I find it very very hard to believe that airports would empty the SINGLE most important position of an airport at any time.
This post was edited on 3/13/14 at 4:00 pm
Posted on 3/13/14 at 4:00 pm to theunknownknight
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I find it very very hard to believe that airports would empty the SINGLE most important position of an airport at any time.
If the airport is closed, why would they man the tower?
Posted on 3/13/14 at 4:01 pm to theunknownknight
don't you think if this was a hijacking they would have had a destination in place with all means required to land the plane? i doubt they would steal it and not have a destination/landing site in advance
Posted on 3/13/14 at 4:01 pm to Topwater Trout
So anything new since this morning or just a lot of speculation still?
Posted on 3/13/14 at 4:02 pm to SSpaniel
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If the airport is closed, why would they man the tower?
You serious clark?
Closed <> NO ONE assisting in landing
Posted on 3/13/14 at 4:02 pm to theunknownknight
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I find it very very hard to believe that airports would empty the SINGLE most important position of an airport at any time.
Only class B has towered runways at night. I think even BTR (class C)goes untowered at night. I know KNEW does.
You can control the lights by tuning into the radio and hit the comm button. A few airports are like this. In fact the vast majority of airports don't have towers.
Landing a 777 with lights wouldn't be that hard for a well trained pilot.
hell I feel like firing up FSX and taking the 747 on this route and checking it out.
This post was edited on 3/13/14 at 4:03 pm
Posted on 3/13/14 at 4:03 pm to TigerTatorTots
They are all living it up in the Maldives.
Posted on 3/13/14 at 4:04 pm to Topwater Trout
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don't you think if this was a hijacking they would have had a destination in place with all means required to land the plane? i doubt they would steal it and not have a destination/landing site in advance
One would assume. I'm just throwing out there the necessity of some form of communication if the hijacker was flying unless he was a flying savant.
The pilot, of course, could still fly it...just seems unlikely unless he was the hijacker.
Posted on 3/13/14 at 4:04 pm to theunknownknight
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You serious clark?
Closed <> NO ONE assisting in landing
Ahh... I was thinking more general... like... why would any airport leave their tower unmanned ever.
I would assume that if they intended to land the airplane at a closed airport, then they must have had somebody at the airport to work the tower.
Posted on 3/13/14 at 4:04 pm to TigerTatorTots
nope...except "some" us officials think plane may have been hijacked and landed safely
Posted on 3/13/14 at 4:06 pm to EA6B
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Flying "nap" of the earth for several hours would have been a piece cake in that plane. Use the Flight Management Computer, dial in 1000ft, altitude or whatever, heading, airspeed, and just sit back with yours arms crossed.
Prowler gets it.
Do the 777's have ANAV?
Posted on 3/13/14 at 4:06 pm to theunknownknight
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The pilot, of course, could still fly it...just seems unlikely unless he was the hijacker.
i think the only way it would have been successful is if he or copilot was in on it
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