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re: Officer-involved shooting in Minneapolis. 20 year old black male shot and killed. (update)

Posted on 4/12/21 at 2:03 pm to
Posted by NorthTxLSU
Dallas to Austin to Houston
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 4/12/21 at 2:03 pm to
how tf do you mistake a 32oz glock for an 8oz taser?? cop is an idiot
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
34164 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 2:03 pm to
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We are always being told people are allowed to make a mistake.



Pulling a gun instead of a taser is a mistake. But her actions led to her killing someone. Officer fully deserves to be fired and charged for manslaughter. You really want an officer “serving and protecting” when they so easily mistook a taser for a gun?
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42308 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 2:04 pm to
Nope. My comment was not a commentary on this case, but more of a general statement of displeasure with overburdensome government regulation.

The man should not have tried to jump back in his car nor resisted. The police officer should have been trained sufficiently to be able to tell the difference between a loaded 9mm and a taser.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
66112 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 2:05 pm to
So you saying black people can't be held accountable for anything?

Sounds racist.
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
33051 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 2:05 pm to
Holy jump to conclusions mat, batman

Please point me to anything I've said that would make you think that what I was implying.
This post was edited on 4/12/21 at 2:07 pm
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
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66112 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 2:07 pm to
You replied with holy shite to a rather rational and logical breakdown.
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47827 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 2:07 pm to
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The police officer should have been trained sufficiently to be able to tell the difference between a loaded 9mm and a taser.


I mean, yeah.

This is a pretty embarrassing anecdote on the quality of LEO we have in this nation. I’m honestly baffled this mistake could even be made by someone that has ever fired a Glock.
This post was edited on 4/12/21 at 2:09 pm
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 2:09 pm to
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Pulling a gun instead of a taser is a mistake. But her actions led to her killing someone. Officer fully deserves to be fired and charged for manslaughter. You really want an officer “serving and protecting” when they so easily mistook a taser for a gun?


Absolutely agree. I never said she shouldn’t be fired.

Manslaughter? Not sure about that.

Again, when you fight the cops being killed is always a possibility. It’s a low probability but it happens.

It’s just like covid. Certain people believe we shouldn’t have any risk at all from covid. We aren’t safe until there is zero risk from covid. It’s an absurd proposition.
Same here, some people think you should be able to fight the cops without any risk. Why? Does the cop have zero risk to their life?
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 4/12/21 at 2:11 pm to
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I’m honestly baffled this mistake could even be made by someone that has ever fired a Glock.



I'm choosing to believe it wasn't a mistake and this is just the cover story they came up with.
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
32762 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 2:11 pm to
Because you would need a unanimous jury to believe the officer would not have been justified in using lethal force in that situation, even though the officer clearly made a mistake. Just my initial impression.
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
33051 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 2:11 pm to
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rather rational and logical breakdown



No point conversing with you.
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
33051 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 2:12 pm to
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Because you would need a unanimous jury to believe the officer would not have been justified in using lethal force in that situation, even though the officer clearly made a mistake. Just my initial impression.

I disagree, you would only need to prove the negligence which seems fairly easy.
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47827 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 2:12 pm to
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I'm choosing to believe it wasn't a mistake and this is just the cover story they came up with.


definitely crossed my mind

I think the initial quote I’ve seen from the shooter seems to indicate this really might be supreme incompetence though. Officer said “I’ll tase you” multiple times then went all :O when she realized she had shot him
This post was edited on 4/12/21 at 2:19 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 2:13 pm to
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So you saying black people can't be held accountable for anything?


It's the path progressives are on.

All actions by black people are caused by white supremacy.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 2:14 pm to
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No point conversing with you.


If she didn’t mean to pull the taser and she pulled the gun and said she thought he was reaching for a gun what would your thoughts be?
This post was edited on 4/12/21 at 2:14 pm
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42308 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 2:14 pm to
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I'm choosing to believe it wasn't a mistake and this is just the cover story they came up with.


So you’re saying she wanted to kill him, but didn’t want to be charged with homicide, so she yelled taser three times before shooting?
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
59246 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 2:17 pm to
has the video been posted here yet? I'm 95% sure the female cop grabbed her gun instead of the taser
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
34164 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 2:17 pm to
AT A MINIMUM, she unlawfully discharged her firearm, resulting in a negligent homicide. Pretty sure that is always a fire-able offense
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
33051 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 2:17 pm to
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If she didn’t mean to pull the taser and she pulled the gun and said she thought he was reaching for a gun what would your thoughts be?

I'm not here to argue over hypothetical situations.

However in that situation, I imagine we would be looking a lot closer at where the other cops were grabbing him, whether or not he had a weapon, the status of the passenger, etc... With nothing else different, my initial take would be that it is a bad shoot considering the proximity to other people around them and no evidence of imminent threat to their lives.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42308 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 2:18 pm to
Well I think it’s 100% proven she grabbed the gun as opposed to the taser as she shite him with a gun and not a taser.
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