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re: Officer-involved shooting in Minneapolis. 20 year old black male shot and killed. (update)

Posted on 4/12/21 at 2:19 pm to
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 4/12/21 at 2:19 pm to
I'm late to the party

Posted by MSUDawg98
Bear the F Down
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Posted on 4/12/21 at 2:21 pm to
I started college playing football for The U before transferring to State. Granted that was decades ago but seeing this is sad. They gave an inch back in the 90s and in the ensuing years the left has taken a mile.

I went through college before people got weak about hazing. The only dangerous thing was then sending the white guys to a pizza joint in the hood. A place where in the years prior some thug walked into the joint and shot a MPD officer in the back of the head while he and his partner were eating while on break. (Yet it still felt safe enough that the only scary thing was using the bathroom which was at the bottom of a dark staircase.) The memory of that murder will influence policy and institutional teaching for at least another decade. It's why cops may go harder in those communities than they would have before the incident. I don't blame them at all.

The city is getting what they sowed. I would not send my kids to The U with that environment. The school has moved so far to the left that I won't be surprised if they mandate a "multicultural" class for all incoming freshman. Starkville will never be confused with a big northern city but it is by far a better place for learning.

So here's how this plays out. The bodycam footage clearly proves the officer's version of events. The shitstirrers will not accept that it was an honest mistake. The officer needs to move before her personal info is released to the press. This will affect the outcome of the DC trial. The result is either a finding of not guilty or it will be declared a mistrial by the judge or on appeal. Regardless we will see Minneapolis-St Paul burnt to the ground again this summer.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 4/12/21 at 2:22 pm to
Hahaha not your fault. I saw someone mention the “grabbed the wrong tool” in another thread and had to go back and find that info as this thread is damn long. Just ignore me, I’m a smart arse
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
59247 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 2:22 pm to
Posted by MSUDawg98
Bear the F Down
Member since Jan 2018
13901 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 2:23 pm to
Those pictures make him look like a queer gangbanger.

ETA: Just for context, "Queer" is what the homosexuals up there openly call themselves.
This post was edited on 4/12/21 at 3:34 pm
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 2:23 pm to
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I'm not here to argue over hypothetical situations.


Fair enough

You do know that thousands of cases of people fighting and resisting officers take place every year right?

And I would assume you are familiar with selection bias. In other words, you haven’t watched the thousands of other videos where the suspect doesn’t die right?

With that in mind, what is the acceptable level of suspect death for criminals who decide to fight the cops? You can give me a number of a percentage.
Posted by Tiajuana lips
Member since Apr 2021
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Posted on 4/12/21 at 2:23 pm to
Hey MSU dawg how are you doing today
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 4/12/21 at 2:24 pm to
Was the female cop, black?
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
33051 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 2:24 pm to
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The shitstirrers will not accept that it was an honest mistake


What a ridiculous comment. The dude is dead.

Would you accept it if it were a family member of yours?
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 2:25 pm to
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Would you accept it if it were a family member of yours?


No. And their reaction is understandable and emotional.

But the adults in the room that aren’t emotional have to figure out how to handle this.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42308 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 2:25 pm to
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Those pictures make him look like a queer gangbanger.


Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
33051 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 2:26 pm to
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With that in mind, what is the acceptable level of suspect death for criminals who decide to fight the cops? You can give me a number of a percentage.


My acceptable number for people who are shot when the the officer meant to tase is a hard 0.

Is that an unreasonable number?
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75194 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 2:27 pm to
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This is a pretty embarrassing anecdote on the quality of LEO we have in this nation. I’m honestly baffled this mistake could even be made by someone that has ever fired a Glock.

We continue to make their jobs impossible. We continue to cut budgets which leads to fewer police on the streets. We continue to make excuses why they aren't worth more than what they are paid. We elect leaders who continue to throw them under the bus at every turn and work to sow division in their communities. Yet, we still wonder why it keeps getting harder and harder to attract competent, well-educated, and well-trained individuals to the law enforcement field.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75194 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 2:32 pm to
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No. And their reaction is understandable and emotional.

But the adults in the room that aren’t emotional have to figure out how to handle this.


We live in a society that is all take and no give. You can acknowledge blame for the officer's actions while at the same time acknowledging blame for the perpetrator's actions. That is possible, but there is no nuance in this debate anymore. People demand the officer and the police take responsibility while dismissing the personal responsibility and actions of the perpetrator in this, and every, instance.
This post was edited on 4/12/21 at 2:33 pm
Posted by Byrdybyrd05
Member since Nov 2014
26543 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 2:32 pm to
The young man freaked up by resisting and going back into his car. Lady cop freaked up by not realizing she had a gun and not the taser when she shot it at him. All I know is if I killed somebody accidentally, I would be locked up behind bars. She should be fired and charged for manslaughter. Both sides freaked up here and both have costly consequences with one being dead and the other could go to jail.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 2:32 pm to
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My acceptable number for people who are shot when the the officer meant to tase is a hard 0.


You didn’t answer the question.

Because if there is never a resist and a fight then the taser isn’t even necessary.

Again, what is the acceptable number or percentage of deaths for people with a criminal warrant who choose to wrestle and fight the cops?

It’s a pretty straight forward question for someone who is so convinced they are right
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
34164 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 2:33 pm to
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But the adults in the room that aren’t emotional have to figure out how to handle this.


What? Adults without emotions are the only ones capable of making decisions? Emotion is what make us human. We aren’t fricking robots.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42308 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 2:34 pm to
You don’t make policy decisions based on emotions. That’s how you get horrendous laws.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75194 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 2:36 pm to
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You don’t make policy decisions based on emotions. That’s how you get horrendous laws.

Like voting to defund the police department. It is also how you get hypocrisy when the same people who voted to defund the PD then request personal police details because they have "received death threats".
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
39701 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 2:37 pm to
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He’s getting emotional.



Oh yeah, clearly I’m the unhinged one in this thread
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