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re: Off duty cop shoots would be juvenile burglar in the head
Posted on 4/23/20 at 10:36 am to oogabooga68
Posted on 4/23/20 at 10:36 am to oogabooga68
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When an a-hole breaks the law and karma comes at the end of a gun, THAT is generally an expected outcome for engaging in stupid behavior.
Muh "not a death sentence" is a stupid retort when Darwinism rears its head.
They werent breaking any laws other than being out late ya fuggin knob, read the article
Posted on 4/23/20 at 10:39 am to IndianInBR
Were they all wearing backpacks? They may have been out hiking.
Posted on 4/23/20 at 10:46 am to oogabooga68
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Can you point on the doll where the mean ole' popular jock in High School touched you?
Man, you sound bitter.....
Nah, it's just frustrating when you realize how dumb so many people are. I grew up around a lot of those types and of course see them in big numbers posting on here.
This post was edited on 4/23/20 at 11:54 am
Posted on 4/23/20 at 11:50 am to oogabooga68
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When an a-hole breaks the law and karma comes at the end of a gun, THAT is generally an expected outcome for engaging in stupid behavior.
Muh "not a death sentence" is a stupid retort when Darwinism rears its head.
14 year old kid sneaks out at night to hang out with his friends and gets shot in the head because his cell phone light flashed, and we get yet another awesome human being spouting “stupid behavior” and “Darwinism”.
Please tell me what law the kid broke that made being shot in the head an “expected outcome.”
Posted on 4/23/20 at 11:54 am to Cosmo
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Also sucks that the perp isnt dead
Now he can't be added to the totals for coronavirus deaths.
Posted on 4/23/20 at 12:05 pm to nolatiger711
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Plus, article says both white.
Not trying to be an arse, can you point out where? Was waiting for this info.
Posted on 4/23/20 at 12:49 pm to lostinbr
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14 year old kid sneaks out at night to hang out with his friends and gets shot in the head because his cell phone light flashed, and we get yet another awesome human being spouting “stupid behavior” and “Darwinism”.
A couple of months back, one such sneaky teen gunned down a woman in her own driveway when she heard a noise outside and checked it out. Turns out Sneaky Teen and his fellow street soldiers were breaking into her car. In south BR 2 miles from where I work.
There's a damn good reason why people expect the worst case scenario from 14 year olds prowling their property at night.
They will kill you as quickly as a 30 y/o freshly sprung from Angola.
This post was edited on 4/23/20 at 12:51 pm
Posted on 4/23/20 at 1:18 pm to oleheat
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A couple of months back, one such sneaky teen gunned down a woman in her own driveway when she heard a noise outside and checked it out. Turns out Sneaky Teen and his fellow street soldiers were breaking into her car. In south BR 2 miles from where I work.
That’s terrible. But none of that applies to this case. If the kid were breaking into the homeowner’s car, this might be a different conversation. If the kid were armed, this might be a different conversation. Neither of those things appear to be true based on what JPSO has released thus far.
When you go outside and hold the kid up at gunpoint instead of calling the actual police, you are responsible for your actions if you misjudge the situation and cause a tragedy. That’s the risk you take when you decide to take matters into your own hands. Why is this controversial?
Posted on 4/23/20 at 1:29 pm to hubertcumberdale
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They werent breaking any laws other than being out late ya fuggin knob, read the article
hubert, your type is the worst of the worst. take your own advice, and do a bit of reading. there are other articles out there. instead you prefer to tell others how stereotypical and dumb they are.
from nola.com:
Two from the group got out of the car, and three stayed behind, with the vehicle's alarm activated, the Sheriff’s Office said. The three who had stayed back then climbed out of the car, tripping the vehicle's alarm.
Posted on 4/23/20 at 1:32 pm to Screaming Viking
It was their own car
Posted on 4/23/20 at 1:34 pm to Screaming Viking
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hubert, your type is the worst of the worst
The more poliboard regulars that think this, the better
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Two from the group got out of the car, and three stayed behind, with the vehicle's alarm activated, the Sheriff’s Office said. The three who had stayed back then climbed out of the car, tripping the vehicle's alarm.
It was their car how is this a crime other than the kids being out too late?
Posted on 4/23/20 at 1:43 pm to Screaming Viking
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hubert, your type is the worst of the worst. take your own advice, and do a bit of reading. there are other articles out there. instead you prefer to tell others how stereotypical and dumb they are.
from nola.com:
Two from the group got out of the car, and three stayed behind, with the vehicle's alarm activated, the Sheriff’s Office said. The three who had stayed back then climbed out of the car, tripping the vehicle's alarm.
Where does it say they were breaking into cars?
Posted on 4/23/20 at 2:04 pm to hubertcumberdale
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hubertcumberdale
a lot of assumptions being made here. including by me.
i am assuming that they were up to no good. i am assuming that their car alarm was going off because they had stopped the car they were in. i am assuming that the kids were not simply dropping off a friend. i am assuming that the kids were on the shooter's front yard, and not a distance away. I am very curious as to why they were in his front yard. If they were in another yard, the "stand your ground doctrine" would not be even potentially applicable.
i have no direct knowledge of what they were doing. i do not know if the kid deserved to be shot, or not.
you are assuming that they were simply hanging out, or whatever. or that they had done, or were doing nothing wrong.
JP is doing the right thing by treating the shooter as a victim, and as a target of the investigation.
Posted on 4/23/20 at 2:15 pm to Screaming Viking
Or they were parked on the road, two people exited the car (Somewhat dense population area with small multi-family dwellings). When they walked away the car alarm activated.
Of the three left in the car someone triggered the alarm getting out, or rolling a window down.
The kids were scared they would get caught or were just walking towards the house the other two passengers had went into, down the sidewalk (yes there are sidewalks there) or in the street near this guys house.
Guy came out his house with a gun drawn. Two took off. The other one didn't. Flash, shot.
Of the three left in the car someone triggered the alarm getting out, or rolling a window down.
The kids were scared they would get caught or were just walking towards the house the other two passengers had went into, down the sidewalk (yes there are sidewalks there) or in the street near this guys house.
Guy came out his house with a gun drawn. Two took off. The other one didn't. Flash, shot.
Posted on 4/23/20 at 2:35 pm to Screaming Viking
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i am assuming that they were up to no good. i am assuming that their car alarm was going off because they had stopped the car they were in. i am assuming that the kids were not simply dropping off a friend. i am assuming that the kids were on the shooter's front yard, and not a distance away. I am very curious as to why they were in his front yard. If they were in another yard, the "stand your ground doctrine" would not be even potentially applicable.
Per JPSO, the kid whose parents owned the car lived nearby in the same neighborhood. There are small yards and sidewalks in this neighborhood. Maybe 20 ft., max, between house and sidewalk.
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i do not know if the kid deserved to be shot, or not.
Per JPSO, the shooter stated that he fired because he thought the kid’s cell phone was a gun when its light flashed. If there were additional details that would indicate the kid was a threat to the shooter’s life, seems odd that JPSO would leave them out but include the part about the cell phone.
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i am assuming that they were up to no good.
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you are assuming that they were simply hanging out,
On the one hand, you have a 14 year old kid who JPSO stated snuck out to joyride with his friends.
On the other, you have a campus cop who got fired from his last job after testing positive for methamphetamine, initiated the confrontation, and told JPSO he mistakenly thought the kid’s cell phone was a gun.
If you are giving the benefit of the doubt to the cop given the information that’s currently available, I don’t know what else to say. But I sure as shite hope none of the folks who think the current evidence justifies this guy’s actions live in my neighborhood. God forbid my daughter accidentally sets off my car alarm and my neighbor decides to “help me out” by putting a bullet in her head.
Posted on 4/23/20 at 2:41 pm to Cosmo
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Agree which sucks
Let me get this straight, you are pro shooting kids in the head for petty crimes?
I am not saying the kid didn't deserve punishment but the action FAR outweighed the crime.
I remember being 13 and stealing the caps off of tires around my neighborhood. I was being a little shite cuz all my friends were too. Eventually one of us got caught on camera and the cops went to his house and scared the shite out of him (and all of our friends by proxy). He was maybe given a citation at worst. He definitely had to go to the guy's house and apologize to him to his face. Do you think that he should have been shot instead?
I am all for backing the use of force by cops in actual physical altercations but I am not for cops giving kids the death sentence cuz they are pulling on car handles in the driveway.
Posted on 4/23/20 at 2:45 pm to lostinbr
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That’s terrible. But none of that applies to this case. If the kid were breaking into the homeowner’s car, this might be a different conversation. If the kid were armed, this might be a different conversation. Neither of those things appear to be true based on what JPSO has released thus far.
When you go outside and hold the kid up at gunpoint instead of calling the actual police, you are responsible for your actions if you misjudge the situation and cause a tragedy. That’s the risk you take when you decide to take matters into your own hands. Why is this controversial?
No controversy at all. They did an excellent job of profiling themselves as car burglars, being near his car on his property at 3AM. Being a police officer, he undoubtedly knows car burglars are usually armed. Investigating while unarmed could be a death sentence. The fact that no weapon was found after they scattered doesn't mean one wasn't present before they were confronted. Believe that.
Were they completely innocent in a freakishly suspicious set of circumstances? Perhaps. But I wouldn't recommend making that assumption a rule to live by- because it may not work out that way.
This post was edited on 4/23/20 at 2:46 pm
Posted on 4/23/20 at 2:47 pm to oleheat
I have set off my own car alarm at 3am. The last thing on my mind is that I would look like a would be burglar and should worry about getting a shot to the head.
I was trying to shut it off by any means possible.
I was trying to shut it off by any means possible.
This post was edited on 4/23/20 at 2:51 pm
Posted on 4/23/20 at 2:49 pm to lostinbr
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14 year old kid sneaks out at night to hang out with his friends and gets shot in the head because his cell phone light flashed, and we get yet another awesome human being spouting “stupid behavior” and “Darwinism”.
You forgot the part about the car alarm going off.
Posted on 4/23/20 at 2:51 pm to kengel2
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You forgot the part about the car alarm going off.
Even if he was pulling door handles to try to steal shite (which he probably was) do you really think he deserves a death sentence?
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