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re: Odd - Question - NFL Stadiums - Buffalo Bills building new stadium
Posted on 1/12/25 at 1:20 pm to 777Tiger
Posted on 1/12/25 at 1:20 pm to 777Tiger
Jerry paid all the loans and such back early. He's all square.
SoFi in LA was self funded 100% though. He didn't feel like dealing with any of those headaches. Of course, Kroenke is a billionaire in his own right and he married a Walton so $2 billion to him for the land and the stadium was pocket change. It'd be like a guy making 100k dropping 6700 dollars on a 4 wheeler. Only the 4wheeler pays for itself a couple times over
SoFi in LA was self funded 100% though. He didn't feel like dealing with any of those headaches. Of course, Kroenke is a billionaire in his own right and he married a Walton so $2 billion to him for the land and the stadium was pocket change. It'd be like a guy making 100k dropping 6700 dollars on a 4 wheeler. Only the 4wheeler pays for itself a couple times over
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Posted on 1/12/25 at 1:41 pm to Harry Boutte
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Why can't old stadiums be reworked?
Apparently because they become "dated".
Honestly with the recent renovations to the Superdome, I really think it’s a top 10ish stadium in the league. If you look at it as a whole…proximity to downtown, amenities, aesthetics, it’s a fine venue.
Posted on 1/12/25 at 1:44 pm to thelawnwranglers
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I wonder what shelf life is structurally
The Arena of Nîmes, built of limestone and concrete in 70 AD, is still in use today:
Concrete gets harder as it ages.
Posted on 1/12/25 at 1:45 pm to thelawnwranglers
What happens to the old stadiums?
Posted on 1/12/25 at 1:57 pm to thelawnwranglers
Why can’t these multibillion dollar businesses with billionaire owners and multimillionaire professional players BUILD THEIR OWN ARENAS????
Another example of fleecing the poor and middle class.
Another example of fleecing the poor and middle class.
This post was edited on 1/12/25 at 3:05 pm
Posted on 1/12/25 at 2:02 pm to go ta hell ole miss
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Super Bowl (although weather turned that into a fiasco)
Wasn’t just the weather.
Selling tickets for temp seats for the SB that couldn’t be added in time meant you had tickets for entry which didn’t have a seat.
Can’t fully blame that one on the weather.
Posted on 1/12/25 at 2:04 pm to 777Tiger
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it's usually forced on Joe Sixpack in the form of long term bonds and old Joe and his family likely will never see the inside of the place ETA: old Joe will likely still be paying for that stadium after the new one becomes "dated" and the owner wants a new toy
AT&T cost 1.3 billion dollars. Taxpayers put up a 325 million dollar bond, which was funded by a 2% increase in hotels, 5% increase in car rentals and 0.5 cent sales tax increase. Benefits far outweighed the $325 million bond.
Admittedly, that stadium is unique and few, if any, will bring to the community what that stadium has already brought and will continue to bring. The Buffalo stadium will never bring that much.
Posted on 1/12/25 at 2:08 pm to thelawnwranglers
Because they can and the owner wants to? Why do you care
Posted on 1/12/25 at 2:08 pm to go ta hell ole miss
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Admittedly, that stadium is unique and few, if any, will bring to the community what that stadium has already brought and will continue to bring. The Buffalo stadium will never bring that much.
that's the point of my original post, Jerry World is a bit of an outlier in that area and I used to be pretty up to speed on this but don't care enough to get back up to speed on it, but by and large building a new pro sports venue has not been good to local taxpayers
Posted on 1/12/25 at 2:10 pm to thelawnwranglers
Especially in Buffalo's case, where it's not like they need a modern stadium to attract super bowls and CFP finals, which aren't going to Buffalo under any circumstance.
Posted on 1/12/25 at 2:11 pm to thelawnwranglers
Hijack: Should it be allowed for health insurance companies and hospitals to sponsor sports teams like Highmark is? They're my health insurance company and paid out of the arse for naming rights.
Posted on 1/12/25 at 2:12 pm to thelawnwranglers
The Bills stadium is a dump, but it seems like they’d build an indoor stadium. Cleveland is building a new domed stadium, so I kinda get that, although the stadium they have isn’t that old.
Posted on 1/12/25 at 2:15 pm to Harry Boutte
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The Arena of Nîmes, built of limestone and concrete in 70 AD, is still in use today:
Negative, Leroy
Posted on 1/12/25 at 2:15 pm to Tall Tiger
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attract super bowls
almost a guarantee that if you will build it, they will come, talking about the Super Bowl, those owners aren't going get that brand new toy unless they can showcase it
Posted on 1/12/25 at 2:22 pm to cadillac7563
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Because they can and the owner wants to? Why do you care
In a world where I can't get a V8 truck law makers are funding the destruction and rebuild of perfectly good stadiums
Posted on 1/12/25 at 2:22 pm to 777Tiger
Usually it’s less seats with more suites. Suites are where the big money is.
Corporations usually spend big money on these and use them as perks for employees or courting other businesses/ investors.
Corporations usually spend big money on these and use them as perks for employees or courting other businesses/ investors.
Posted on 1/12/25 at 2:28 pm to thelawnwranglers
The same reason the Texas Rangers needed a new stadium. They absolutely didn’t. The Ballpark in Arlington opened in 1994 (I think). 26 years later, they “needed” a new field. There is literally nothing wrong with the old field even now. It was just to inflate the owner’s ego
This post was edited on 1/12/25 at 2:29 pm
Posted on 1/12/25 at 2:29 pm to Ponchy Tiger
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Negative, Leroy
It was still in use when I was there in '87.
Posted on 1/12/25 at 2:33 pm to Harry Boutte
All it would take is telling the owner no.
You might lose your team, but it's his team. He can do what he wants.
You might lose your team, but it's his team. He can do what he wants.
Posted on 1/12/25 at 2:34 pm to BeachDude022
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The same reason the Texas Rangers needed a new stadium. They absolutely didn’t
bullshite. Half the stadium was uninhabitable for most of the season
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